TRUE TRUE !!!

OK SO I WILL WRITE IN PLAIN ENGLISH this time.

WHAT THESE BASTARDS CALLED GAY & LESBIANS AND THEIR BL**D CL**T ACTIVIST SHLD OVERSTAND IS THAT " WE JAMAICANS ArE ONLY DOING WHAT JAH SAY IS WRONG...IT'S IN THE BIBLE " I THOUGHT ENGLISH IS THEIR FIRST FROCKING LANGUAGE..."

ARE THEY TELLING US TO DISRESPECT JAH WAY AND ACCEPT BATTY AND DEM PU22Y WHOLE LIFE STYLE? NO WAY... MI A CHANT DEM PSALM 1 VS LANG TIME MI NUH SEH DEM AH FILTH!!

yes, Maria I totally agreed with you. I think the reggae/dancehall community, especially the artists, Their management teams should begin by drafting up a petition denouncing these restrictions put upon artist, holding the venue owner accountable.Make them prove that a billed artist lyrics will incite violence. I mean the gay community information is so outdated. homophobic in the dancehall- When you go a dance It's pure gays you see a dance, ah dutty wine, lol, and know one trouble them. Most violence against gays are between themselves. I'm not saying oh yes gays can walk go anywhere in JA, because that would be untrue. It's know different in the US, UK and other countries. Gays are not welcomed in alot of communities, worldwide. As I mentioned before, start with a petition to counteract their nonsense and lies. A petition can also be use as a tool to educate both the dancehall and gay communities. And if we really love reggae/dancehall music and culture. SUPPORT the music, stop buy bootleg, stop download for free. When you go to a club/venue that support and book reggae acts, support the people business, by making a purchase, this is how you, help keep the doors open. Help make the business flow in a postive way.

YOUR ARTICAL AS HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.REGGAE PEOPLE HAVE TO GET TOGETHER......OTHERWISE I CAN SEE US LOOSING OUR MUSIC TO (OTHERS).REGGAE MUSIC IS OURS AND OUR HISTORY OUR CULTURE. DJ OFFICER D LONDON UK

im a jamaican living abroad and i dont friend homosexuals or go around them but at times while doing business you have to interact with them. i use to scorn them but the longer im here i see the hypocrisy in jamaica. i have discovered that a lot of jamaicans are involved in these things and some of them are artistes. the thing about religion is a copout. why do we keep talking about the bible say yet in jamaica there is a runaway murder rate, sky high corruption and so much poverty.we like to talk about being christians but only when its convienient.the fact is there is freedom of speech but for that freedom there is consequences. if you want to be a artiste who want to educate the masses and talk about right and wrong then you should do it and not worry about making money or touring overseas because the powers that be dont want that. if you want to be an artiste who want to floss,and boast about your cars and house and your best dress awards then you have to fall in line to make the money. its just how the ting set.mandela, ali and mlk spoke about injustices and paid the price with

their freedom,livelihood and in mlk's case his life.they became icons for standing up for what they believe and paying the price.if you want to sing say fishman fi dead sing it because you believe it ,not because everybody a say it but be willing fi pay the price. JAMAICA LAND I LOVE

maria jackson i totally agree with your commentary why hasn't the reggae/dancehall community said their piece to this madness, i
hope this article you wrote will be seen and not be a total waste of your time

god bless jamaica keep it pure from all evils

Mi GROW UP IN KINGTON AND I had a neighbor that was
guy and nobody never trouble him and people in the community knew he was gay but no harm ever came to this man. This happened in Kingtson 16 so you know it's a gully sittn. The gay man died from aids several years ago.

Shaun Davis, you have totally missed the point of what the concept of the article was all about. The article is about freedom of speech and the right to be able to verbally lodge your discontent or dissaproval of a certain life style {Homosexuality. The homosexual community has no problem expressing any discontent they may have with jamaican artists and take it even further to make it a lifes mission to put our Jamaican artists in the poor house. There are churches here in the United States that advocate the same reasons as we do in Jamaica yet I see no Homosexuals picketing the churces, they get away with it because the Jamaican artists are Black, yes Im playing the race card. There are Rock groups in America that expout disgust with Homosexuality but no one is cancelling that show.
Jamaica is a very small country compared to the U.S.A trust me there are people here who advocate violence against gays several gay people both men and women have been killed in this county not that it is right but it has happend. What the gay community in America and Europe need to do is stop the gay bashing in thier own back yard before they meddle in our business.

Jamaicans denounce Gay's not because the bible says so that is a cop out, the bible burns fornication as a whole which is big her in JA.And maria be honest a male gay has differnt challenges than a lesbian in Jamaica stop using the bible or religion to challenge homosexuality is wrong bible or no bible.
Maria u cant be bias u know very well that the music has gone down hill these past couple years the violence in out music now has become the norm,the artists can still burn out gays but they sing pure evil they are not GOD they cannot judge who shall live or who shall die,the reason is because some of these fools are illiterate the cant burn out the gays without singing evil but the people are in the business are afraid of the CATS(artists).

marie i totally feel you artist and their management should definately team up and counteract these so called gay activist groups who locking down our shows one of the things they need to do is threaten the promoters or the owners of the venue that they will sue just like the gays do then they would be in a whole lot a hot water cause they would be facing lawsuits on both sides....

U KNOW I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT TO THE ARTISTS FOR THE LONGEST WHILE.BUT NO ONE WILL UNITE FOR A CAUSE LIKE THIS.AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT UNITY IN THE BIZ.ITS PRETTY MUCH EACH MAN FOR HIMSELF.U ASK MOST ARTISTS ABOUT THE BAN,AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA OR DONT CARE.AS LONG AS THEY'RE MAKING A LIKKLE MONEY.I'VE SUGGESTED THAT THEY SHOULD POOL THEIR MONIES TOGETHER AND HIRE SOME OF THE BEST LAWYERS TO FIGHT FOR THEM YAUD AND ABROAD.BUT ONLY TO HAVE IT FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.INSTEAD SOME OF THE GO SIGN TREATY.HHHMMMM WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THIS B4 IN OUR HISTORY?AS USUAL NO ONE IS WILLING TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING.ONE BAG A CHAT.

SHAUN DAVIS ,YUH SEE HOW CORRUPT YUH MIND DEM BECOME ALL OF A SUDDEN? MAYE YOUR SOUL PERISH IN SEVENTH HELL...!

JAH CHANT BOUT HOW BAD IT IS TO BE A BATTY A LANG TIME EVEN BEFORE SLAVERY...SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT THE REGGAE ARTISTS OR JAMAICANS SAY...IT'S WHAT JAH SAY, AND HOW ABOUT THAT?...CATS,DOGS,BULLS,GOATS DON'T MAKE LOVE TO THE SAME SEX CUZ THEY "KNOW" IT'S NOT RIGHTS BUT HUMANS DO ! HOW THE HECK COULD YOU EXPLAIN DAT...?

I agree that freedom of speech is a two way street. If they can speak up against us then we can do the same.

We need a proper scientific study to determine if homosexuality is a mental disorder.

Violence towards someone because of their sexual preference is wrong.

When I lived in the Kingston 10 area there was a homosexual who also lived in the area but no one physically abused him. His mother sister and brother are good people; he seems like an ok person too.

They can just keep their homosexual activities away from me though.

Mj thank you for putting some light on this matter.
We need to educate these people about our culture and lifestyle and maybe they will understand our stands on the matter of homosexuality.
Homosexuality has gotten so big in Europe and the USA that it would be impossible for us to not do business with these people. I think instead of gay bashing we should educate them and continue to quote Bible scriptures when it comes to homosexuality.
In everything we do as jcan we need to do it in a kinder manner and maybe they will not so much want to boycott our entertainers from performing their act, because they think that all Jamaican are boisterous and ignorant
I love reggae music and it hurts when I cannot go to a show to see my favorite artists.
Guys and lesbians hold some powerful position here in the USA and they will want to boycott because of the violent content in the music. So we need to be more diplomatic on the whole situation.

So the basic argument of this "commentary" is that reggae artists should be able to say whatever they want without consequence? They should continue getting the same amount of money because that's how they make ends meet? Of course, this is totally insane. If you want to spew vitriol against a sub-set of people and others want to hit you where it hurts in order for you to reconsider the trash, then by all means, it is their right to do so. Now, fundamentally, I disagree with censorship - people should be able to say whatever they want except for special occasions when their speech will directly incite violence, panic ( like saying fire in a crowded theater to use the preeminent example). So, I don't think reggae should be censored by official boards or required to adhere to restrictions about lyrics. However, considering that reggae artists and everyone else do not live in a vacuum, one has to be conscious of their audience and how their message will be received. If you spew hatred and that subset wants you to stop, they have every right to try and get others to not support you. An official restrction, no, but if by their actions, they get sensible heterosexuals refusing to go these shows then more power to them. Every one has the right to make a decision about what they will support or not - no one is obligated to support reggae music, much less its inveterate homophobia. You can't expect to spew the same hatred over and over without consequence.

With that said, I'll challenge any of the "free speech" advocates here to demonstrate that they value "free speech" rather than the fact that they adopt this position as is convenient because they don't like homosexuals. Suppose a gay Jamaican artist, homosexual or lesbian, was writing and performing lyrics as sexually explicit as normal dance hall music, would you support their right to write such music then? Would you write a "commentary" supporting their right not to be banned by public radio ( which they most certainly would) or dance venues? Would any one of you be concerned that they could not make a living because they would be banned everywhere? Seriously, think about this people. You all would most likely not care whatsoever. . Most of you would probably convulse, burn down the stage and attack and beat the entertainer then the next day whine about free speech for dance hall lyricists when they spew hatred against gays, utterly oblivious to your hypocrisy. In other words, free speech is a zero sum game: you cannot defend the right to free speech merely because you agree with what is being said. The notion of people having 'free speech' is value neutral and thus cannot be defended or argued for simply because you agree with what an artist is saying or because you want them to eat. The 'freedom of speech' has nothing to with allowing people to eat of their hateful lyrics or for that matter' making money from their pro homosexual lyrics; it has to with being able to say what you want ( withing reason) without fear of censorship. It's supposed to engender a wide spectrum for talk not to simply promote a one-sided affair of hate that is too much of dancehall music. The best way to test if you really believe in so-called 'free speech' is to ask what you'd do in the opposite position, not yours. As presumptuous as it may seem, I already know most of you would not support it for the opposition making your campaign based on claims for ' free speech' empty.

Moses - you do have a point, a valid point at that. what would we do if the situation was reverse, meaning - what if a gay reggae artist was singing his lycris/music about s*x and stuff for all of our ears to ear?

I do believe that the gay's need fi lay-off the Jamaican artists.

and Yes, freedom of speech exist, but "spoken words" even the bible mentioned about "spoken words" can be destructive....
So I would say, Our artists can Tone down some lycris, not to curtail them,,,But in a way not to Hurt anyone.

mi dear moses - you tried your best - but do you think these die hard haters understand anything you said?

haters - read my lips

IT IS NOT RIGHT TO ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND THAT MY HATING AUDIENCE IS THE LAW - INTERNATIONAL LAW

AND REGGAE MUSICIANS WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH BREAKING THAT LAW

SIMPLE

so they have to go back to the drawing board and find some words to express their hate that do not imply that anyone should consider killing gay people

gays do not care if you like them

gays care if they live or die and so do their families and friends (yes they have those - believe it or not gays were not hatched)

the bible did not say love your neighbour WHO YOU AGREE WITH - you even have to love your lying, thieving and adulterous neighbour - you just do not have to be like them

ANOTHER REASON WHY ME NAH LIKE DA GAY FROCKA DEM.

TO ALL DEM B*TTI GAY, SHE MALES, MALE SHES, SODOMITES,TRANS CONFUSED, ETC....
QUESTION---DEY CLAIMED DAT BEENIE, KING SHANGO & KALONJI SIGNED SUM PEICE OF PAPER DAT REFRAIN DEM FROM SINGING BOUT YAH GAYS RIGHT. EXAMPLE KALONJI IS CUMING TO LETS SEY LONDON TO PERFORM.
U YOURSELF RATE KALONJI NOW & SINCE HIM A SIGN DIS ACT FORM U DECIDE TO GO SEE HIM PERFORM. NOW REMEMBER BEFORE U COULDNT STAND HIM.
HOW WOULD UNNO FEEL STANDIN INNA DE CLUB WATCHING A MAN DEEP DUNG NOT LIKING U PERFORM?
DIS QUESTION GOES BOTH WAYS TO DEM GAYS & DA ARTIST. MY ARUGEMENT IS DAT IF SUMONE DONT LIK ME I WOULDNT ATTEND THEIR SHOW.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT EVEN AFTER DA ARTIST HAVE SIGNED DIS ACT--- DA SAME GAYS & LESBOS ARE DA ONES WHO ATTEND DA SHOW. THESE EVENTS BECUM SOLD OUT. ME NAH HEAR W/ MY OWN RASTED EARS SEY ONE OF THESE ARTISTES HAVE SIGNED DIS FORM.

why don't some of these homophobic artists (some of whom are gay themselves) who obvously are lacking in the vocabulary section stand up and scream out to kill some politician or someone else who they do not agree with

oh - is it because the bible told them to kill gays?

well why don't they kill anyone who upsets them then? didn't the bible say an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth

oh - and what about the many wives men had in the bible ? why don't we all live like that now?

why don't we just do everything the bible says without understanding

if homosexuality is a sin do you think you are god to pass the judgements?

well you can talk about sueing promoters etc or what ever you want, but the gays are going to go all out to defend themselves and jamaica is the place that may suffer for it

bottom line - find other ways to sing about hating homosexuality - that is all gays want you to do - ease off the incitement to kill or be violent

i promise you YOU WILL NOT WIN.

foreigners who hate gays cannot freely kill them or speak about killing them - sowhyshould you want to go in their country and start that sh*t so everyone can look at jamaicans as narrow minded and violent?

Moses I think you need to do more research before you write . In that in Jamaica the airwaves bans sexual explicit and violent explicit lyrics from the airwaves. Therefore there is a flaw in your thinking. If you should travel you will hear some songs on the airwaves which will never make the airwaves in Ja. Secondly if one should pay close attention to some of the lyrics in the era which after which reggae music is said to have declined one will find that these lyrics are as charged if not more so with violence incomparison to now. The way in which it is conveyed may however has been changed. Now to viewing things from the other point of view why should anyone attempt to impose their way of life on another, to the point where the gay community has taken it. My question to you is if heterosexuals were to do the same what would be the results? Also for your information Jamaican society is not the only society to hold its present view other countries within the Caribbean has refused to remove anti-buggery laws . Also the Eastern half of the world absolutely condems this lifestyle ,to the point where if your caught the punishment is death and there ain't nothig the UN or America can do about it, In fact these countries are respected for there way of life So what is it about Jamaica is it because we are GOD BLESS

Finally someone look at the real issue. Its not about what the artists say, its about their right to say it. All these countries that are banning reggae shows and reggae artists have people within them that speak out about homosexuality. So many of these gays come out talking about it has been around for such a long time. So because something has been around for a long time we should accept it? If that is the case then we should have no problem with other sexual deviants should we? We should accept pedophiles and necrophiliacs? Never!! Just becasue people who have no other abnormalities engage in this act doesnt mean it is something good to do. Reggae music lovers and Jamaicans as a whole need to stand up. Its not just the music my people. They want to censor our way of life. I for one will never change my ways. Stand up Jamaica. Defend our culture, defend our rights!!

so true all we do in Ja is fight against our own we missing out on alot because we are all jamaican if we don't stand by each other and fight for our right we going to have a falling country an a fall nation unite we stand divided we fall.