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December 04, 2007
What would you do if your child is GAY?
By: Rootzgirl
I have a really hard question to pose to you and I want you all to be honest in your responses. What would you do if you found out that your only child is gay?
It's a question no parent wants to face, but the reality is there that some will have to deal with it sooner or later as more and more gays are coming out of the closet.
I came across a situation the other day where one parent sent her child to a mixed school only to pull the girl out because as she claimed "the boys were feeling her up".
She eventually placed the daughter in an all girls school and then the horror began, the male hands were replaced by softer feminine ones!
In the end the mother had to admit that if she had a choice she would have preferred to have her daughter dealing with a man.
Seriously, what approach would you take if you discovered that your son or your daughter had no desire for the opposite sex, but instead wants to get it on with members of the same sex?
Would you kick their *ss to the curb and bring down no ends of disgrace on them? Would you embrace them because at the end of they are already your children and nothing can change that? Or would you pretend that the situation doesn't exist until it blows up in your faces through some gang beating by gay bashers?
You can bury your heads in the sand all you like but at the end of the day, no amount of wishing and hoping and pretending will make the situation go away.
I am asking some hard questions, but to tell the truth I have already seen the answers in a lot of situations in Jamaica. Some gays are left abandoned by the one constant in their lives – their family, while others don't know exactly where they fit in.
Yup, the tendency is not to have any pity as many say they brought it on themselves, yet scientific research claims - they were born with more genes of the opposite sex and have no option but to be gay... so you also have choices in your response to gays.
You can choose to love them or turn your backs on their lifestyle treating them as sub humans.
So, I close my column with the way it began...tell me, what would you really do...I really want to know.
Posted by yardFlex at December 4, 2007 09:54 AM
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Posted by: FORTIS
on December 4, 2007 10:56 AM
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It would be easy for me to say i would shoot/stangle him in his sleep! but until we are faced with the situation can we honestly say what we would do ?
Fortis For Life !!
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Posted by: krazy
on December 4, 2007 10:59 AM
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evry1 need love no matter the path they take
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Posted by: Nellp
on December 4, 2007 12:16 PM
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Bwoy Rootzgirl, what a tuff question. The only thing I can say is that, I would still love my daughter/son. I would just ask them, not to carry on with their partners in front of me...It repluses me to see g*ays kissing/carrying on. and now I will say. "Lord please guide my kids to have someone of the Opposite sex. Amen!"
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Posted by: Tania
on December 4, 2007 12:39 PM
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i don't have any children as yet. but the truth is it's ur child u gave birth to him/her u have to realise that no man is an island so u have to be the one to stand on ur two feet for that child. if and whan i do have a child i would have to just work with it what can i do abandon him No way. a man chooses his life style and no one can change that.
Remember at the end of the day we are only human no animals.
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Posted by: Miizarebel
on December 4, 2007 12:46 PM
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I'd have to turn my back knowing that i don't support that type of lifestyle, no matter who it is... Straight!!!
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Posted by: Candace
on December 4, 2007 01:16 PM
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if my child is gay then the right thing to do is just deal with it and embrace the decision. Everyone has a right to their own sexuality and gay or straight at the end of the day they are still ur child and you just have to love them whether or not u approve of the sexuality.....
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Posted by: Mark
on December 4, 2007 02:20 PM
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Is it so wrong to choose to love someone? We should see an example in a person who chooses to put themsleves in harm´s way because of their love. Gay people who come out in Jamaica are putting love and honesty first in their lives. Who wants ot be the first to throw a stone at that?
I wouldn't kill him/her. I'd try and get them back onto the straight, but if that fails, then i'll disown them.
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Posted by: anonymous
on December 4, 2007 03:12 PM
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The GOOD BOOK says u should love ur children unconditionally no matter wat. I am not saying that sleeping with the same sex is right....but we have to face the fact of it all....it's right before our eyes whether we like it r not...we cant always be ignorant about the way one choose to live there life. I am strickly dickly (as in i am not gay) but i dont have a problem with dem. As long as dem nah go try nuttin wid me i'm good str8.
I like the fact that u post this blog and ppl before u really start comment tink about it first cause arrogrance proves ignorance also
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Posted by: Wade Cameron
on December 4, 2007 03:22 PM
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Mi woulda tell har fi get outta mi site before mi box har down.
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Posted by: GRIFFITH
on December 4, 2007 05:42 PM
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THANK GOD IT SEEMS AS IF MY SON 8 GAY MOE THAN I DO, AND MY DAUGHTER IS ONLY SEVEN AND SHE KNOW ITS WRONG. BUT SAY THEY DO? THE DAY THEY REACH OF AGE I SHOW THEM THE DOOR. AND WOULD NOT CARE TO SEE, HEAR OR SPEAK TO THEM AGAIN. NOT GOIG TO BE A HYPOCRITE
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Posted by: PAYDAY
on December 4, 2007 11:48 PM
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I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY, I BELIVE IT IS A CONDITIONING OR LEARNED BEHAVIOR. THE SEX MENU INCLUDES BEASTALITY, EXCREMENT AND URIN, PEDOPHELIA, SEX WITH DEAD BODIES AND ALL KINDA FREAKY STUFF THAT I DON'T EVEN WANNA HEAR ABOUT. CAN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE CLAIM THAT THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY?
SEXUAL DISCIPLINE IS CRITICAL ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS WHEN THERE ARE SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS THAT RESIST TRADITIONAL MEDICATIONS LIKE ANTI-BIOTICS, THE POSSIBILITY OF DISEASES TRANSMITTING FROM ANIMALS TO HUMAN, FROM FECES, OR WORSE FROM CORPSES. PEOPLE CONTUNUE TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND THIS DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR THE FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE.
THESE PEOPLE GIVE IN TO THE ABNORMAL LUSTS THAT THEY IMAGINE AND FANTASIZE ABOUT, AS SOON AS THEY GET BORED THEY THINK UP NEW WAYS TO GRATIFY THEMSELVES SEXUALLY. KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE FULL ACCOUNT TO THEIR MAKER. THEY TRY TO JUSTIFY IT BY CALIMING THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY. I FOR DON'T BUY IT!!!!!!
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Posted by: too-name
on December 5, 2007 12:07 AM
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i will lock off di bl**dcl*t yute...i dont promote no fish bwoy...fish bwoy fi dead
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Posted by: Carlton
on December 5, 2007 12:32 AM
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It is a difficult question only for someone that does not truly love their child. Many parents abandon their children for their own selfish reasons. To love your child is to love yourself. To hate your child or harm your child is to hate yourself. And of course if you hate, you do not have the spirit of God in your heart. God is if anything exists in love. We are nothing as a human race without it. This subject is one that seems to just be coming to the surface here. Many countries/societies have been dealing with the issue in a way that gives respect to others with different natural desires. Holland for example where Jah Cure recently performed, has laws giving gay people equal rights and protection under teh law. The Dutch people don't think twice to see a loving gay couple walking down the street holding hands or having dinner together. They have completely woven that aspect of human nature into their social fabric. Act badly towards a gay person there, and you will be looked at as a backward person from outerspace. So, if other societies can and have dealt with the understanding issue of gay people, then so can Jamaica. There are so many gay Jamaicans most people would be absolutely shocked to learn the truth. A lot of people say that " I don't know anyone that is gay" when in reality they do... they just don't know they are gay. Would you really change your mind about someone you love just becasue of that? If teh answer is yes, then you would really have to ask yourself "did I really love that person in first place?" Much of teh hype about the gay thing is really a lot of old time stuff. We are moving forward and need to respect them gays. They are jamaicans and they contribute to our society in many ways. You know it is said that the gays are more inteligent and more creative so in a sense we all benefit from dem. Many afamous artists are gay they of course go alone with all teh anti gay songs to hide from their own secrets and to make money. Those are the gays that I do not respect. The child that comes out to the family is one who has great courage and who will ultimately live a happier life just being themselves. So, I tip my hat to the parents who try to understand, who may not understand but nevertheless... love therir children unconditionally. (and while you are at it, guys try giving a little love and attention to your all your children gay or strait... they need it too just like you.)
peace... carlton out.
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Posted by: silent thunder
on December 5, 2007 12:35 AM
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what would I do? first of all.. let me make this point.. I love punani too much to only have one child, so this question really stretches the imagination...
Fortis gave a great answer. that is probably the answer to answer all hypotheticals. we often talk about how we would behave if we were the rich, how we would behave if we were in someone else's shoes, etc., but we really do not understand the depth of any situation until we are in it.
As for this question.. I would hope to love my child as love is the highest ideal and as an "idealist," I try to live up to what I consider to be a great ideal while avoiding those which I deem to be lowly.
There are many who will use the bible to justify their own hateful ways. If you are hateful, accept full responsibility for your actions instead of blaming it on the bible. If the good lord blessed you with the ability to read, read the whole book, not just the ones convenient for you. If the lord blessed you with the ability to think, make your own decisions instead of blaming them on a book you have refused to read in its entirety.
In the end.. what would I really do? I do not know, but will surely beg for forgiveness in any case for fear of offending the lord.
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Posted by: Shelley-ann
on December 5, 2007 05:19 AM
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well, being brought up in Nottingham( England) its a very common thing for someone to be gay and to more or less accept it. HOWEVER if my child was gay then raaaaaa.....mi nuh know! I would still love my child unconditionally but i dont think i could accept! i think that would be the most hard part for any mother. the accepting part.
i think in JA its more hard for those to come out of the closet. but over here its a common thing. different cultures will give a different response-i work with gay people, im faced with em everyday- but mi have to hol my tongue.
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Posted by: DUBFYAH
on December 5, 2007 06:42 AM
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I'D TRY FI MEK HIM OVASTAND TWO REASONS WHY IT'S SUCH A WRONG DIRECTION FI TEK.
1) JAH FROWN PON ANYMAN THAT SLEEPS WITH ANOTHER MAN,BIBLE DUN TALK SOH YUH SEE ME A SHOW YOU ?
2)EVEN ANIMALS DON'T SLEEP WITH THE SAME SEX, NUBADY CHAT TO DEM BOUT DAT BUT DEM KNOW IT.IF WE ALL SLEEP WID THE SAME SEX THERE WILL BE NUTING LIKE "PREGNANCY". HIM THE FISH CYAAN BE BORN.
SELAH.
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Posted by: any
on December 5, 2007 07:23 AM
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as mi granny seh "I would beat de gay out ah them!"
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Posted by: Barbara Smith
on December 5, 2007 07:59 AM
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thas is life u cant choose for the child, al u of to do just give him or her your suport. and let them know tha u still love them. menberthis u canot chose for them. bless ladyann
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Posted by: yes you
on December 5, 2007 08:38 AM
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me-kill frockin dem..god nuh like it... me nuh like it..fullstop.
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Posted by: SHIRLEY RENFRO
on December 5, 2007 08:49 AM
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I lived in Montego Bay a few years ago and loved every aspect of my Jamaican experience. EXCEPT one - the widespread hatred of homosexuals. We as people of African heritage face so much hate in this world -- do we need a reason to hate ourselves? Here in the United States people hate homosexuals also. Unfortunately white Americans hate people of African heritage/ Blacks & Jamaicans too. All this hatred certains around self doubt and fear. Let go and let Jesus.
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Posted by: Grace
on December 5, 2007 09:14 AM
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I have two daughters and one of them is a lesbian, she meet her sweetheart at an all girls high school, and they have been in love ever since. I love both my daughters and I tell them that there’s nothing wrong with being gay. If your son or daughter is gay, embrace them and tell them it’s ok, tell them not to be ashamed of their sexuality they are just as normal as anyone else. My sister has lived with her girlfriend for ten years now, and they are such a happy couple, happier than most of you heterosexual people, they plan to adopt a little girl in the future. WAKE UP PEOPLE WE ARE LIVING IN A NEW AND WONDERFUL JAMAICA!!!!
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Posted by: melonie
on December 5, 2007 09:55 AM
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my love for my son is unconditional....enuff said.
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Posted by: Nicky
on December 5, 2007 10:14 AM
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It's a hard question to answer. But at the end of the day it will be your child that you carried for nine months. Personally, I don't think it is a lifestyle that I would want to embrace, but at the end of the day I don't think I could turn my back on my love one I would just have to pray and fast day and night for god to show them the right way. Which is the straight way.
I guess it would be much easier to turn my back on my child if it turned out to be a cold-blooded murderer, serial killer etc. Cos at the end of the day, if my child went around killing inocent ppl without pity it would be much harder for me to love him/her than if him/her was gay.
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Posted by: Jadastar
on December 5, 2007 10:20 AM
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this is an easy 1...no matter what my child decides I would Love & support them!! I know Jamaica is homophobic but to tell u the truth..I wouldn't allow my child's sexuality to define the love i have for him/her every1 loves to judge people, but what they wanna do in the privacy of their bedroom is their business... & if my daughter/son takes home the same sex! then as long as he/she are being faithful to each other & they are happy with who they R then i wil be supportive!! & as for -Fortis- if u would kill ur child then u are just as bad.. because if being gay is a sin...killing sum1 is just as bad of a sin!! Y'all need to evaluate urselves!!!..... every1 loves to say that it's a sin to be gay!! isn't it a sin to kill Gay people too???
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Posted by: rasmalice
on December 5, 2007 10:27 AM
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cut off straight up and down. i am not raising my kids to be battymen and muff divers. i would probably beat the living shit out of the kid like almost kill them and i wouldnt mind doing the time behind the assault charges "i brought you into this world, and ill take you out"
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Posted by: Orderly Chaos!
on December 5, 2007 10:52 AM
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I think the problem with the jamaican society is that we need to get over ourselves. Its time to get to a place where we realise its not about what u want...its not ur life...allow people to live theirs. People make life decisions everyday & its accepted but this one particular lifestyle we cant get past. We're hypocrites...we can live with a liar & even a rapist...we all "fornicate" but we all become "holier-than-thou" when it comes to homosexuality & all of a sudden none of us are sinner...only THEM! Im sure if "ur daughter tek man like dawg" u could see past that but u cant get past a gay relationship...time to stop using the bible as the basis for our disgust...cuz we nuh believe inna it no other time...too convenient I think!
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Posted by: andrew
on December 5, 2007 11:01 AM
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I WORKED WITH A COUPLE AND IF ITS NOT UP IN YOUR
FACE SOMETIMES U TEND TO FORGET THEY ARE GAY.I THINK IF ITS A GIRL THE REACTION WILL BE DIFFEREN
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Posted by: FyahBun
on December 5, 2007 11:11 AM
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If I was to have a child who was gay, I would have no choice in loving them... it would be my child and love would be naturally felt and expressed towards him/her. Being human, I do however have my preference, and would probably feel a way if any of my yute-dem were gay. But that would be mostly due to the social climate of our time (as far as our understanding of what is the cause/ purpose of homosexuality). I wouldn't want my child (or any child I know) to grow up in an environment where they are shunned, rejected, and/ or subjected to derogatory stereotypes... for a situation that they, nor anyone else instigated, or could naturally change.
You can't really look at homosexuality as a 'lifestyle', and judge it to be condoned or not. Lifestyles can be altered, modified, or changed all together... your sexual orientation is a genetic disposition and cannot be altered, modified, or changed at all… not at this time anyways. It's the exact same as Race (and Racism) when you really look at it.
I'm heterosexual (Jamaican born and bread) and I can't imagine that that could/ will ever change. And I’m human, so by default, I have to extend that courtesy to every other human being regardless of the superficial elements like race, gender, or sexual orientation. I do, however, think that homosexuality is a defect of nature (like an albino, or any person born without 1 or more natural endowment which threatens their survival and the survival of nature (natural order of life). But I think it’s especially threatening since nature prescribes and depends on the male and female union in order to maintain itself by multiplication. But Genetic manipulation is now making that reasoning obsolete.
Whichever way you check it, at the end of the day, we are simple expressions of life (humans) and that means imperfection is the basis that ties us together. It’s the balance. As much as our religions (and other social elements) drive us to hate gays… consider this... maybe the Earth/ nature really need homosexuality in order to balance out… and it probably does.
Live Life And Love… Red – Gold – And Green.
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Posted by: Jermz
on December 5, 2007 11:53 AM
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Since homosexuality is a choice i would tell them to get back on the right path but if they choose to continue with the gay thing then they can't be a part of my life.
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Posted by: Big Dee
on December 5, 2007 11:56 AM
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I don't want to go down the biblical road but we have to know and overstand history. We have to know where we have been to know where we need to go. How can the future of mankind continue if same sex relationship is right? Can two of the same sex produce life? If one of my children prefers the same sex then as God is my witness, they do NOT have a father in me, straight. Remember Sodam and Gomarah.
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Posted by: randolph
on December 5, 2007 12:11 PM
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you will be diss own in my heart but in my mind that still be my child and i will support my child but i would not want that child around me i will not feel comfertable.
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Posted by: mark
on December 5, 2007 01:25 PM
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Such cruelty in so many of those statements. You are being asked what you would do to your own CHILDREN. Your own flesh and blood! If you sincerely believe you would kill them, bang them, shut them out, whatever violence or cruelty you proudly claim, you don't deserve to be honored with God's gift of children. Some of you seem to think your children are your slaves, to follow your direction. What about what they want? What about the fact that they are pronouncing their LOVE?!?! As for the person who thinks this is something that has suddenly started happening nowadays .... please learn some history and open your eyes to human nature - we've always been a mixed race, that is, the human race.
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Posted by: ken
on December 5, 2007 02:36 PM
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Boy this is some rass ignorance. It kills me to see how people can judge each other. First I do believe that some people are born gay-- because if u look back to when some of these people were small- before they know right from wrong- you could see the gay tendency-- I am talking age 5-6-7.
Most people that dislike gays - say its because being gay is a sin-- but so is having sex before marriage, lying, stealing, cheating , being jealous and the list goes on. How the hell can you pick which sin is bigger than which!! Sin is sin-- stop the ignorance people-- being gay is not the same thing as pedophilia-- or beastiality- or necrophilia!!!!
I am not gay-- but I am not gonna look down on anybody who is gay-- because God is love-- and nuff ah those badmind people that hate gays WILL NEVA SEE GOD'S FACE!!!
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Posted by: Sexylous
on December 5, 2007 05:53 PM
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Grow up a child in the way he/she must grow and when he/she is old they will never depart from it. But if dem think dem a go - go lean not over mi live body a mus when me dead.
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Posted by: Jewel
on December 5, 2007 08:37 PM
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Bwoy Rootz, u gimmi suppen fi tink bout. Mi have one son. Nuh muss get nuh more...just di one. Mi look pon him now and all di memories from di day him born till now (9yrs aftr) just mek mi heart hurt mi and melt. And den mi tink bout u question, because fi tell di truth, is something mi always tink bout. And each time mi tink bout it, mi come up wid a different ansa. Kill him...Cuss him or Abandant him? But di truth is, how can I be cruel to a child I carried for 9months and loved and cherished for so long. How can I kill him? How can do anything to hurt him?
Mi try fi grow mi bwoy right. Mi try fi instill di values of decency and rychussness in him. But at di end a di day mi cant live him life fi him. Di ulimate choice is his. Jah know, fi a modda fi deal wid a situation like dat nuh easy cause mi lite all sorta fyah pon di fishism business. It wrong, no two ways about dat! Suh how fi deal wid di situation of mi son tunning inna one? I wouldnt welcome him wid open arms and condone di slackness at all. I would b disappointed...extremely disappointed and probably for di rest of mi life, ask mi self if mi nevva do enuff fi teach dis bwoy. Di relationship wid mi and him woulda change somewhat. Fi certain, when him come simmi him betta be alone, because mi naa condone di saddam and gammarah business inna mi house. Suh at di end a di day a guess weh mi a seh, is mi preffa nuffi know, but once mi know, kip dat deh aspect a him life far from mi. Respect mi wishes as a mummah and dont carry him fishy man come a mi yaad. Dont even talk to him pon di phone inna mi presence! Mi suspect seh once mi find out seh him a move dem way deh, mi wi draw nearer to mi grave suh fiddi likkle time weh mi have leff wid him, him fi mek mi 2 likkle last days as bearable as possible. Just kip certain tings away from mi. Dats di best mi can ansa dat deh question deh. (Lawd...Mi heart aal start flatta arreddy to raas!) Rootz yuh a hear mi...nuh do dem sitten yah again star! Chuh! Hattup people nerves!
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Posted by: two cents
on December 6, 2007 01:56 AM
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payday - wow i just was eating some food - easy nuh man on the graphics...
anyway, if you really have been able to observe the very feminine gay people especially from they were small, you will see the excessive amounts of the other sex overpowering the 'male or female shell' they are born in
there is no denying that
the graphic examples of freakyness you gave, are just that - disgusting freaks and you are right about them
i don't even tolerate bi-sexuals - they to me - are those people who learnt this behavior
but the plain gay is just gay and it runs in families too. the problem with jamaica and such cultures is it is well hidden behind marriages.
trust me. i know a jamaican minister who pastored a church in foreign who is as gay as a gay bird or fish:) he made advances to many men in the community and i didn't believe it (because he was prominent and actually a friend of my family), until a close friend said her husband was also propositioned by him.
He was married and hiding his gay self behind a wife.
go figure
so love your child and make sure the child understands that if he/she is choosing this - then they have to stop now, but if this is genuine (and they will know) then support them.
give some counselling first - to make sure noone molested them into learning and thus loving this behavior.
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Posted by: non swimmer
on December 6, 2007 04:17 AM
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i would ask him to go to the sea and have a bath
hopefully him tek in water and drown
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Posted by: out an bad
on December 6, 2007 11:06 AM
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a question like this is difficult to answer but hear goes my answer, as far as iam concerned u cant be born gay period, and u cant convince me other, no one can be born gay r lesbian, i learned that men sex men when i came to America, i did not know that shyt growing up in Jamaica, and that is real talk, i have never seen a kid born gay, (never) to be gay has to be a habit u pick up, r a desire u have for the same sex, but if i have a kid born gay which i dont think will ever happen i would dis own him, straight, r his mom may love him enough to care for him, but not me call me a fcuked up parent but its not working this way at all, i would not know how to deal with a gay son r a gay daughter so i would not even bother try, and i dont want to learn how, one other option would be to force puzzy onto his gay azz, and if it doea not change him then i know he is gawn and so am i. i guess its the jamaican in me shoot me.
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Posted by: blueblood
on December 6, 2007 11:13 AM
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bwoy Rootzgirl, tha one de wicked. I have a son and a daughter whom i love world without end, and it would hurt me deeply; to my core, if i find out any a dem gay, worse if its my son. because that is my bloodline, if him turn battyman nuh done the thing a go done? i know i am kind of bias or hipprocritical, but it wouldn't be as devastating to me if the girl is gay. Nevertheless she would have to stay out of my sight, and mi wouldn't a entertain nuh discussion bout she and har woman, she would have fe tek wey har self with that bombo clothe! Me pray and hope that i would be able to deal with it, which quite frankly i doubt i could. Bottom line is i think me and them would have fe go we separate ways. Whoever a the battyone stay a east and me stay a west,because me know I couldn't deal with that. Me would a probably kill somebody or somebody kill me. And while me believe that most Gay people, are born that way,I beleive that there is that small percentage who, for them its just a fad, or some a them just lickie-lickie. And they are the ones who i bun the most fire pon. A must something in a dem DNA; in other words a so God mek them, because who the rasse-clothe in a dem right mind would a chose fe turn battyman, worse ina Jamaica!There is a part of me that feel it fe them and there is a part of me that is repulse by them, bwoy only God can judge. But me woulda rather them stay a east and me stay a west or the visa versa.Only God can judge!
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Posted by: Jamaicanlady
on December 6, 2007 11:18 AM
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Rootzgirl, no offense, but I would check my sources if I were you, before quoting scientific research, your quoting it like a fact, when the fact is, there is no such thing as a gay gene, and many scientists have also disproved what you have written, stating that genes have no affect, and it's completely a matter of choice. I too have followed this so called research, and this is completely a matter of opinion. If they truly have tested Gays to prove that they have more of the opposite sex genes, then to prove thier point, they would have to also test several straight people to prove they don't have the same condition to say that this is truly why people are gay. People are not born thinking about sex, they learn about it, including Gays, they choose to follow the route that most suits them, it has nothing to do with genes. If genes are so powerful to make you love the same sex, then there must be genes that make people like Bruce Golding, and Portia become successful and popular, or a gene to make Michael Jackson become the King of Pop Rock & Soul, and a gene to make someone end up rich, and someone ending up poor!!! Come on, your surroundings is what creates you, including inside and outside influences. All I know is in the many people in my family in Jamaica and abroad, not one of them is Gay, not one, and we have some with bad genes, but no "Gay genes".
Quoting on your question, I would love my child no matter what, but doesn't mean I have to accept their lifestyle, also, it's been proven that Gays have been turned straight with councelling and some prayer, I would definately use this as a way out. If they still choose to be gay, then they are on thier own, I can still love them, but I won't accept thier lifestyle. It's no different than my mother seeing a married man, I refuse to accept that lifestyle too, I love her, but won't accept what she is doing. Nuff said.
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Posted by: KC
on December 6, 2007 11:26 AM
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I think I would just accept it. I don't think it is a choice. Nobody wants to be beaten, abused or discriminated against. That is what it means to be homosexual in Jamaica.
I think that Jamaicans are homophobic in the extreme and use the bible to justify it, but what about the liars, the people with multiple partners, the thieves, the drug dealers?
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Posted by: shelly
on December 6, 2007 01:54 PM
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Until we are faced with such a decision, there is not much we do or say. A lot of us claim we despise homosexuals, but what do you do, if there is one on your job? Or one is your doctor, or lawyer or in a position of authority?
That is why a lot of homosexuals hide themselves. They know people will hate and despise them. So your child might even be that now, and you don't know... so in the end, LOVE THE PERSON AND NOT THEIR LIFESTYLE is the answer.
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Posted by: Carlton
on December 6, 2007 06:54 PM
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jamaicanlady: I respect your logic and apprciate such an intelligent response, but you are wrong. They have mapped all of the human geneomes of the human race in the United States with super computers. There are strong markers (and the complexity of it is immense) but there are true and factual gene markers for it. This has been known for some time but the scientific community is not good at getting the information out because they have no political or religious agenda like others. (not saying you do either) The most clear non-scientifc examples however are cases coming out from all over the world which are very compelling. How do you explain the cases where 5 children from the same parents all of whom were adopted to different families and no contact with one another growing up... all turn out gay... are you saying they all just happen to stumble into a gay bar or pub or read teh wrong books or met the wrong person who influenced them???? Really now think hard about it, our brains are just made up of many complex cells and structures. God decided that not every person should be the same. That's why there are fat people, beenie people, tall people, light skinned people, dark skinned people, green eyes, blue eyes... gay people ....and so on. you get the point. And yes Michael Jackson probably did get some gene from his family... not the "get rich" gene like you casually say, but the gene that made him the talent that he is "an enmtertainer"... whom amoung us could go strike out and accomplish all that he did.... nows I still think he is a little kreepy otherwise... but then again so was picaso, so was Rembrandt, (painting artists for those of you who are so educated) so was einstien and Isaac Newton... you see my point? We as a people should try to understand rather than fear the unknown. What we don't know will eventually be our demise. Let's get some real good knowledge!!!!
peace always
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Posted by: BUNDAT
on December 6, 2007 11:55 PM
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MI COULDNT KILL CAUSE NOT EVEN A FLY MI CAN KILL BUT FI SURE DAT WOULDNT BE MI PICKNEY NOMORE. 2 BIG MAN A HUG UP AN A KISS AN MI SUPPOSE TO WELCOME DAT BACK INA MY HOUSE U MUSSI MAD. SAME IF A LESBIAN CAUSE MI KNOW NUFF MAN LOVE BUN BATTY MAN BUT PROMOTE DI LESBIAN DEM. BUN DEM BOTH
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Posted by: SHAY
on December 7, 2007 12:01 AM
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NUFF NASTY GAL TUN GAY CAUSE NUFF WOMAN WEAK AN MEK MAN TELL DEM WHA FI DO. A NUFF WOMAN OUT DEH A DO ANYTHING FI PLEASE DEM MAN AN A GI DEM MAN 3SOME. DEM A TALK BOUT DEM A FULLFILL DEM MAN FANTASY. MI NAW MEK NO MAN TUN MI INA GAY . NUFF WOMAN A GO ROUN A SLEEP WITH NEXT WOMAN FI PLEASE MAN. MI NAW SLEEP WITH NO WOMAN FI MEK NO MAN FEEL GOOD CAUSE MI WOULDNT ASK HIM FI SEX NEX MAN SO WHY SO MUCH MAN A TELL WOMAN FI SEX A NEXT WOMAN. BUN A SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP. SOME SICK PEOPLE DEH PON THIS WORLD, AN WHAT EVEN SICKER THAN THESE PEOPLE IS THE PEOPLE WHO SEH NOTHING NO WRONG WITH BEING GAY.
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Posted by: YOW
on December 7, 2007 12:27 AM
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I am a lesbian now and I have many friends who are also gays and lesbians. I am an only child and so is about 4 more of my gay friends. Most of us are still in the closet for fear of being chastized by family and society. I wish this country could just lighten up already. We are not spreading a disease cuz the whole country would be infected by now. We are a powerful force to recon with-open up your eyes.We can make or break you-but we would rather build than destroy. We aren't going anywhere. Be compassionate, be tolerant. Someday you just might fall in an unfortunate possition and one of us might be able to help. would you refuse that held at the cost of lives? ONCE AGAIN We are willing to build not destroy. BLESSINGS
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Posted by: Nicky
on December 7, 2007 12:50 PM
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Jamaican lady I do not agree with what you have said. Basically many scientific facts are not accurate. In fact I know and have seen ppl who I am sure were born gay. Though yes some ppl choose to be gay by choice (for example for money, fashion or just plain ole prison buds who have no contact with pum pum for a long time).
I have seen many gays and I just know that their behaviour/ disorder is inate. There are some who were just born not to fancy a woman, many of them even try to fight it but in the end the true them always come out. There are some of them also who are phenotypically females (look/ act like a female in their physical appearance- note the genotype/ genes may also influence the phenotype).
I believe Scientist should do more work on this. I'm convinced that there are two main factors that determine whether someone will be gay:
1= Genes
2= Environment (society or lifestyle)
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Posted by: tamara
on December 7, 2007 02:15 PM
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ken mi can see seh yuh a fishman
jamaican lady mi rate yuh fi da one da
you some woman all a tek frock inna dem *ss fi please man ya now
mi know seh fi sleep wid di same sex a di wickedest sin yuh eva done inna GOD eyesight
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Posted by: Kim
on December 7, 2007 09:24 PM
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Fire fi a fishbwoy, lesbian or bi-sexual.
Dem fi dead no apology
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Posted by: Carlton
on December 7, 2007 11:41 PM
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BIG UP to YOW. You go girl. Des silly Jamaicans don't even realize just how many Gay men and women ther are in Jamaica. If they did, they would think twice about what they say because it's their best friends, their doctors, preachers, team mates, drivers, cooks, market people, brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers... yes believe it or not there are many parents out there who are Gay and raise perfectly happy and normal kids.... so, next time you make a nasty comment just remember... if the person next you agrees with you, it could mean they do it just for cover but deep down you hurt them feelings because they wish you could know the truth and be cool wit it. Case in point, when I was at Asylum, I was with about 15 other Gay guys. Of course when they got to the stupid song chanting to hurt fishman, I left but those poor gay guys sat in there and sang the song withall the other silly people... sad world.... but jamaicans are not known for being very smart or spphiticated.. except the ones that leave the country and go to america... then they neva wana come back to Ja.
trying to find some peace on this good earth.
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Posted by: ken
on December 8, 2007 02:56 PM
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well tamara--
if u can see that I am a fish man-- u need to check your googles -- cause I am a woman!! And ignorance like yours is the reason many gay men go and marry women-- just to look rite in ignorant eyes like yours! Who are u to judge which sin is the wickedest- mi neva know seh yuh name God!!
When u mek ya lil comment dem-- try keep mi name outta ya typing--- and stop judge people cause if what i said bun you soo much den maybe u are a fish gal-- man royal or whatever-- but if u are mi nah judge u cause ah nuh mi place!!
Walk easy tamara
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Posted by: ken
on December 8, 2007 03:04 PM
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and one more thing-- stop the idiyat talking about people are not born thinking about sex-- the gay/lesbian thing goes much deeper than sex!! I grew up with a kid who always wanted to play with my dolls-- always wanted to be the bride when we play wedding --- always wanted to be the mother when we played house-- and guess what -- we are adults now and he is gay!! I know how hard this guy fight against it-- even try to get the "gay spirit" prayed outta him-- but u know what-- he is gay.
So don't tell me that some people are not born gay!! Who the hell would choose to be gay in this world-- to face ignorance like this-- your family disown you-- you can't marry-- you could lose your life.... who the hell would choose to be gay!
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Posted by: DOHH!!
on December 9, 2007 04:52 PM
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TAMARA U WRONG ANY SIN A SIN NUN NO BIGGA
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Posted by: CB
on December 10, 2007 03:44 PM
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I don't know what is worse gay or racist , or are they the same ? Hating a person because they are gay or hating someone because they are black, white or jew etc. We don't have to like everyone that is why we have something name choice . We can choose if we don't like gays we don't have to be around them . We all don't have the same problems in life , so when we have children that are gay I think it's a reason why , maybe it's to teach us to love no matter what . Nothing we have in this earthly life belong to us , not even our children or family. Think about it. In the end we are all GOD'S children.
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Posted by: Carlton
on December 10, 2007 07:42 PM
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Ken... You are made from The Holy God who gave you a mind to think... unlike many of these silly sorry people.
Go in peace and be blessed.
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Posted by: kitty
on December 11, 2007 11:26 AM
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Look, I have one son and don't think I could disown him, he is everything to me, I would do anything for him, so I couldn't do that to him. I would not want to see it in my face, he can keep that far from me, but he is mind and I love him no matter what.
I can't tell him how to live, nobody likes when another person tells us what to do in our lives, and as some of you said it is not the only sin, so we should stop hurting each other.
All we can do is just pray
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Posted by: Christian
on February 19, 2008 07:01 PM
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How currious was I to read the answers. I must admit I was very happy with the end result. The one that stands out for me are Carlton, Fyah Bun, Yow and Ken's comments. For this letter it is not the parent but the son that will answer the question. I am 36 and I'm gay. Fortunately I was born in a country and a century where I could live my life openly. Of course, there is homophobia in Canada, as there is everywhere else on earth, but I must admit it's quite easy to be gay in Montreal. Even in a city as progressive as Montreal, things changed quite a lot in the past 20 years. It is now much easier for gay and lesbian teenagers to live their sexuality openly. I came out to myself 'officialy' when I was 16 and came out to my family and friends three years later. My parents did had an hard time to deal with it, but eventually finished by accepting it. It took them about 10 years to get comfortable with the idea. And that's OK. I did not impose myself, meaning did not touch or kiss my boyfriend in front of them. Several things can contribute to the difficulties to accept that a son or daughter are gay or lesbian. For example, parents takes so much pleasure to the idea of getting grand children. When you tell them that you are gay, you take away that joy from them. Remembering a conversation with my mom, I think the hardest thing for her was to think that I was going to be rejected by society. No parents wants their son or daughter to face discrimination, to be verbaly or physically aggressed. There is also the 'shame' factor. 'What will people think?' In general, people are very much concerned about what other thinks (too much concerned). When someone is making his/her 'coming out', it's not only he or she that deals with their sexuality. In a way, it might be as challenging and sometimes even more for the parents and the family. The lack of education on the subject is responsible for most of it. In the age of Internet, people have access to every peice of information they need to get the knowledge to better deal with a 'coming out' process. Even one of my brother had an hard time to accept my sexuality. Fifteen years later, fully confortable with it, he told his kids before they learn prejudices about the fact that their uncle is dating a man. Of course thay asked questions while growing up. But I tought it was so cool from my brother and sister in law to be as opend as that. I'm not saying that you have to push it to that extend, it was just an example of how acceptance can grow overtime. A few advices I would give to parents: you don't have to accept overnight. Take the time that you need. Read about it. Listen to TV talkshows when lesbians or gays are interviewed. You may even find parents being interviewed. Visit Internet forums. Talk with some friends about it. You could be surprise to realised that people's reaction may not be as harsh as you might have think in the first place. There are even 'help' lines in some countries. Seeing a therapist can also help to reach a greater acceptance. Verbalise how you feel to your son or daughter. To the best of your ability, try not to reject them. For the majority of gays and lesbians, making a coming out is a very hard process. If you are not in the situation to bring support, you can simply tell them in a nice way that you would prefer them not to bring their partner at home. If you make progress dealing with their acceptance, let them know. Sometimes even small steps can contribute to a dialogue. Peace.
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