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August 28, 2007

Gay Protest Mars Reggae Carifest 2007

by Olimatta Taal

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Approximately 50 gays protested the annual Reggae Carifest held this Saturday in New York because Buju Banton and Bounty Killer were billed for the show. The City Parks Department said in a statement prior to the event that all performers signed a code of conduct agreeing to refrain from performing anti-gay lyrics, at the promoter’s request.

As a result of the pressure from the gay rights activist, Power 105.1, owned by radio giant Clear Channel Communications Inc. withdrew their sponsorship from the show. Glaad said in a statement that, "It is unacceptable for Clear Channel, the concert promoters,
and the other sponsors to provide these performers with a platform to promote messages that put lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered people in harm's way."

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Buju Banton has responded to the protest and has branded gay rights protesters at the New York Reggae Festival as "Stupid and ignorant even though they claim to be intelligent." He insists that his messages are not anti-gay and criticized those who slammed his billing at the event.

According to Tokes Osuba from Gay Men of African Descent, "The festival was not well attended. The artistes were muted against their performance and this is a victory for the community. We are advocating sanity and safety in America and must stand up against murder music. Buju Banton and Beenie Man advocate the murder of gays.!

Since the signing of the Reggae Compassionate Act, one would wonder why the organized protest since all parties have reached an agreement? Osuba explains, "These artists are speaking on three sides of their mouths. When approached by people about the Compassionate Act, they denied ever signing it. To them admitting that they signed this pact is a sign of weakness. One of the artist even said that his signature was forged."

Osuba continues, "So as long as they continue to perform the songs, we will continue to confront them where ever they appear. We won't allow them to continue to make money off the back of lesbian and gay people. Everyone has a right to do or say what they want to say, free speech. But we also have a right to defend ourselves and the words they espouse provoke people to be violent."

Posted by yardFlex at August 28, 2007 05:10 PM


Comments

Posted by: KEKE on August 28, 2007 08:22 PM

LAWD DA WOLD HAS COME TO AN END...ITS IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS THAT THIS DYA WOULD COME


Posted by: STRAIGHT on August 28, 2007 08:50 PM

What a contradiction, the heterophobic says he believes in free speech, very laughable. We need to stage straigth pride protest before we are no longer able to enjoy any form of entertainment that doesnt depict same sex sin.


Posted by: slimredbwoy on August 28, 2007 08:51 PM

Soon them chi-chi man will want to ban the bible and pastors that preach from the bible to. Me nah judge, but judgement fi dem!!


Posted by: jah no like gay on August 28, 2007 09:31 PM

bullet fi gays, man fi love women ,adam fi eve not fi steve see wha me say


Posted by: StacyAnn on August 28, 2007 10:35 PM

Yardflex, uno love promote the Gay community side ehh. Since 105.1 FM pull their sponsorship, i want be supporting them anymore. Jamaican people it's time we support our artist and culture. look how long Buju don't perform the tune in question, yet these people continue bout dem ah protest. Listen we have to make them know sey we small but we talawah. We different from the rest, don't make them try push we around. We can counteract by not supporting these entities, who nah support we culture. LOOK carribean people spend tons of monies around he world, if they don't support fe we things, we simply don't support them. Make we stand for something, because this protest business is baseless, this is a personal vendetta against jamaican artist, our people and our Jamaican men, but most of all InI culture.

Look how them target Gargamel, far how long- all ah tell lie bout Buju sign things, Gargamel neva sign noting, i don't care what you think u see onthese guys website. A next thing, me ah question yardflex motives when it come to Buju. Like u ah join dem people dey. Learn this Buju is a ICON, that can neva be taken away, stop trying to discredit the youth. To Buju and Bounti Killa fans don't follow some of these journalist, dem lie. with the internet thing anyone can clam to be a writer or industry person. Heartical dancehall reggage people don't make these hate monger protesters try stop we good vibes, let's come together in the spirit of Marcus Garvey and deal with THIS case properly.

Gargamel and Bounti i love the way u ah represent Jamaica, I thank you for helping the ghetto people also, why don't yardflex write about the goodness these artist bring forth. instead of the propaganda. I will always support Buju and Bounty, fan fe life baby.....

REGGAE MUSIC LIVETH. GOOD SHALL CONTINUE TO CONQUER EVIL.


Posted by: mel on August 28, 2007 11:21 PM

I'm not saying its right degrade gays but no one told them they had to go


Posted by: Rah on August 28, 2007 11:33 PM

wow, so much fuckery a gwan. until di artists dem turn gay then there will be nuh protest anymore. free speech!!! nobody beg di audience dem to kill all a dem "other people".....so wah gwan?


Posted by: UNKNOWN on August 28, 2007 11:34 PM

De faggot dem need fi go s*ck dem muma

Boom Bang KABOOM...Boom Bye Bye inna b*ttybwoy
Alliance


Posted by: piggy on August 28, 2007 11:36 PM

mi seh mi peeeps a di lamest show mi ever guh, but a jus because alliance was on the line up. but memeba mi tell uno dis all dem a protest and gwaan wid dem frockery di general steal di show to bloodclaaat, when mi seh bun dem out mi mean him bun dem out from start to finish a tek dem affi tek him off a di stage, den ninja come look a hype and dis him up fi get few forwards, but a di worst show mi eva guh it was not organized properly.


Posted by: cho on August 29, 2007 12:16 AM

BUN BL**D CL**T FISH..SAME TIME DEM MAN SHOULDA NEVA SIGN.REMEMBER TOSH SAY..."DO YOU REMEMBER THE PEACE TREATY SIGNED INNA KINGSTON CITY".NOW ALL THOSE WHO SIGNED ARE BEING HAUNTED INNA NEW-YORK "SHITTY"


Posted by: Ricky on August 29, 2007 12:18 AM

S*ck unno mudda fish fi dead and big up to the war lawd for still not afraid to dj against faggot ,the show run good .gay man need fi look a wife and life ,fish fi dead and straight people and reggae artist need to fight back .


Posted by: donovan on August 29, 2007 02:58 AM

need to to get some updates on the star performers of reggae carrifest i heard merciless mash up the place


Posted by: bridgeman on August 29, 2007 04:17 AM

People,me did a tink say the US is suppose to be the land of free speech,free speech na bumma cl**t!in a uk a de same ting.For years dem a fight reggea music,now dem want man fe sign paper,and apoligise, a we dem fe apoligise too fe try mash up the liccle pickney brain with dem funnyman ting . I was raised to believe that a man shall not lie down with another man.


Posted by: Kadijo on August 29, 2007 08:28 AM

This is getting RIDICULOUS! The gay population in America has too much influence, and sadly reggae artists are a huge target. Osuba claims that "We won't allow them to continue to make money off the back of lesbian and gay people." Give me a break! Are you trying to to tell me that reggae music is as popular as it is for all these years, b/c artists blast gays, PLEASE! There's much more to our music than talking about gays and lesbians. America has lost what little is left of its values and is trying to impose its unethical beliefs on other countries and cultures. FREEDOM of Speech! This Compassionate Act is also a joke. I don't condone violence against anyone gay or straight, but this is forcing many artists into a corner, and if they don't sign they are sacrificing their livelihood and their finances. Someone needs to speak up about this, b/c its just plain ridiculous. The gay community has too much power. Look what happened to the actor on Grey's Anatomy. He said one comment and lost his job, and it doesn't help that he's black in a predominantly white and gay accepting society. Sadly, its only going to get worse and hopefully some artists will sacrifice and stand up for what they believe in as well as their fans.


Posted by: trendsetter on August 29, 2007 09:00 AM

when we ah burn fish we nuh do it and say sorry!!!!
FIRE FOR THEM


Posted by: FANG on August 29, 2007 09:27 AM

MEMBA DIS:
"KILLA NUH RUN,
KILLA NUH SCARED,
KILLA NUH BOW,
BUSS IT IN AH FACE, KILLA NUH BLUSH,
FROM U DISS KILLA DAT AH SUICIDE!"

POINT IS, NUTTIN AH GO CHANGE, WI POSITION IS WI POSITION, WI STANDING, IS WI STANDING...
IF DEM LUV DI SODOMITE, LET DEM LOVE 'EM, COOL WIT DEM, DEM SHOULDNTA FORCE DEM OPINION PON YARD PPLE...AND WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND OPINION ANYWAY, THOT AMERICA WAS DI LAND OF DEMOCRACY! PU$$Y'OLE!

"DEM GET MI ANGRYYYYYYYYYY!!!"
SOON WI GO RISE DI BRYCHO!

ALLIANCE!


Posted by: warlady on August 29, 2007 09:35 AM

Its like the gays them tek ova, a dem a run the world now a days. What happen to all the straight people we nuh have nuh talk, how all the times the gays them a get them ways?

A time striaght people stand up and fight just like how the gays stand up and fight fi what they believe in.


Posted by: jahdainty on August 29, 2007 10:20 AM

Start support Caribbean and Stop support America and Europe...Stop bowing for the american dollar and euros....everybody haffi eat but every artist deserve respect for his music....they don't see us bunning down rock music weh support satanism....Jah dem ah try mock.....continue.....is time STRAIGHT people protest for their own rights and Caribbean people stop lick America and Europe backside.


Posted by: Fox on August 29, 2007 10:27 AM

I was at the concert and yes, the turnout was not great. There was a lot of "suspects" in there. I got there around 6 so I guess I missed the protest. It was clear that the artists there were not to say anything derogatory about the gays because buju was definitely upset about it. He even warned the audience about the "respect level" that our community(caribbean/blacks) were getting. He stated that we are getting "poorer."
Buju also got a shock when he was performing the intro to "Mahsah God World a run." As soon as he said "World is in trouble...." the microphone went dead. It was dead for about 2 mintues...and that's a long time if you think about it. He shrugged it off by dancing to the beat of his tune while the engineers "fixed" the problem. As soon as the problem was "fixed" buju comically sang a quick 2 liner that stated his opinion on what had taken place. He simply said. " As mi seh world is in trouble..the microphone chip." The crowd roared as buju sang these lines. Bounty(Grung Gad, Warlord) was the only one who addressed the situation. He came on the stage obviously upset about the shows runnings and voiced his intent not to talk about "certain tings." His reason being that when it comes to the test to defend talking about "certain tings" everybody around him(promoters) is "copping out." This was pleasing to the crowd. The microphone was chipping in and out all throughout the night but I remember in one instance where the mic chipped when bounty was about to perform on the bruk out riddim. He waited about 15 seconds for an explanation and when one of the mc's attempted to walk towards bounty with a supposedly working mic..all of a sudden the mic that bounty had started to work...realizing this...he shunned the mc walking towards him by saying...."Nuttn nuh wrang wid dih mic....a unuh a F%@# unuh self....unnuh a reverse di ting. Mi nah reverse Nuting!" This was to the crowds delight as this was probably the loudest forward of the night. He went right into "Can't believe me eyes" and the crowd roared.
Carifest was not very well organized and I believe that the promoters "bow out to the system." If we as a nation seh bunn Shebaada! A fi wih ting dat! Nobody should stop us from saying that.


Posted by: NellyP on August 29, 2007 10:28 AM

StacyAnn - I am agreeing with you. I stop listen to 105.1. Dem nuh inna nutten wid we, We nuh inna nutten wid dem. And to show you that these gays Nah deal wid nutten. They are protesting because they have their freedom of speech. Why the F*ck cant we sing what we want because we have our freedom of speech. In regards to signing of contract - Our Artists have not signed NOTHING. Technologies allow these folks to be able to cut or copy and paste ah persons signature to anything. More Fyah fi Dem.

Yardflex is ok to me cause at least dem mek we know what ah gwaan. expect those lozy pictures dem post for Hurricane Dean.


Posted by: Simone on August 29, 2007 10:42 AM

What protest, that sh*t is wrong (woman to man) thats how we produce and have future generations. Ok since gays believe what there doing is right, what if everyone was gay on this earth, how would that work? How can a man live with a man and no children, then the government give them adoptive children, go find a woman and have kids, this world is just sick, when i was 6-7yrs i never heard of these things.


Posted by: grimez on August 29, 2007 11:43 AM

YO!!!! Mi na lie sum P***Y fi guh fine sum gal!!!! Sum battyman fi guh fine a cliff and jump off!!! BULLET!!!!!!!!! YO!!!!!! KABOOM!!!! BULLET CONNECT FI A MAN WEH F**K MAN!!!!! STR8!!! 105.1 FI GUH SUK DEM MUMMA DRY!!!!! MI SEH MI LOSE OFFA DEM STR8!!!!!!!!! YO!!!!!!! MI WANN DEM BATTYMAN FI GO A JAMAICA AND PROTEST!!!!!!!!! BULLET!!!!!!!!!!!

ALLIANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: tanicia on August 29, 2007 12:07 PM

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED MUSIC WAS ENTERTAINMENT IF THEY WANT TO TAKE IF SERIOUS THEN THAT IS APROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES OUT THERE THEY SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT LIKE HOW THE CIVILIZATION IS GOING TO CONTINUE IF TWO PEOPLE FROM THE SAME SEX CANT REPRODUCE

BOUNTY MI LUV YOU SPEAK YU MIND


Posted by: rick on August 29, 2007 12:07 PM

a weh di bl**d cloth di .. a gunshot inna dem head back bullet bullet


Posted by: Bobby B on August 29, 2007 12:19 PM

Listen, i was at the show, a set-up thing that, the man dem plan fe flop the show, by interfering with the PA system. Listen this thing is bigger than the artist dem, i agree with Stacy ann, this is an attack on our culture and our strong black men. Bounti has ever right to be upset, ever one who knows him knows he's professional when it comes to his craft. This interfering with the PA system was petty and low, in my opinion the perpetrators were members of the gay community. I have never known the gay community to protest and obsess over an issue, except this one, is it because our artist are black, straight men and Jamaican. Why they don't protest the rightwing christian groups, the Vatican, US, UK governments. Why because they feel we are small and can't/want suppport our own. Make we show them what we capable of, continue to support our artist, they are the best at what they do. I enjoy we music and stage shows. I will continue to write letters to these groups, radio stations, newspapers, etc. and I beg reggae fans to do the same. We are intelligent people, who's resourceful like we.

There has not been any incidents in which a member of the gay community has been harmed or attacked due the dancehall lyrics, so what is the protest about. These people are just jealous of we culture and our morals and values as a people
like them feel like because we black, they can challege we.
Carribean people, reggae/dancehall lovers don't make this nonsense deter you from supporting our music and culture.


Posted by: portmore on August 29, 2007 01:24 PM

Mi like dah chat deh Heterophobic...Cause is like some man noh know seh buddy fi pussy. A good fi carifest an di promoter dem... A we real man n woman mek pickney n wi naah support noh batty man ting a nuh batty man order..unu pocket ago feel it worst because a normal man a woman a support unu ting from long time, so if unu gawn di batty route unu aggo loose. Bullit Alliance Killa No bowin ting roun here. Kaaboooom


Posted by: Clovis Anthony on August 29, 2007 01:27 PM

So much hate and violence ...


Posted by: Smiling Killa on August 29, 2007 01:42 PM

Yardflex Nuff Props,Keep it going,but please bringfourt some more Possitive news And leave Rectomist out a wi ting. Right now poor people fed up of the systym thats why the driver naan stop ah tall. Straight peoples only!! Buju Bounty keep the straight flag of Jamaica HIGH. we will never switch and look at our beauttiful Ladies as if they are bee-itch u kno wah fire fi a fish{SKATCHBANET!!}a dat mi seh.


Posted by: Majorie on August 29, 2007 01:55 PM

You seet, look dey, them just bust one guy boy in the States one Senatorn name Larry Craig, a politian inna a shithouse ah try solicit sex from someone, the sick Senator never know say it was a police.. Whoaaaa me Lawd.

Sodomy is against the law in the US and UK. These gay people are out of control. People talk to your children about these people, b/c they have no remorse. They prey on the vulnerable; children.

Can you imagine, a Senator in the shit house soliciting sex.

And people stop saying the gay community has power, they can become powerful if we allow them to. If they have power, when they get caught, they wouldn't have to resign from there positions, in some cases, their children are taken away, or their jailed.


Posted by: daclansh on August 29, 2007 01:56 PM

we really need to come together and fight them too but unfortunately we Jamaicans dont stick together. No Merciless, saw sean kingston and pinchers back stage but didnt see them perform unless they performed with Ninja, Buju without a doubt was the best, then Mavado but for everyone else there were no real spark. The king of dancehall was back stage trying to watch the show but the media and fans alike wouldnt leave him alone so he had to run and hide in A TRAILER. hopefully Irie Jam will be better.


Posted by: Andre on August 29, 2007 02:04 PM

Simone Stacy ann and Fox, ur right on point and i was at the show and there were alot of space to stand up.. the turn out wasnt well.


Posted by: NellyP on August 29, 2007 02:24 PM

Seriously Now. Yardflex, where do you get that picture,,,that Picture dont look like anywhere at Randalls Island where the show kept. Where was this Protest. Can you at least post updates about the show. And in taking another look at the picture it Doesnt even look like New York. The sign to the name of the street is a blue sign, anywhere in the 5 boroughs of NY the sings are NOT Blue, and if a blue one is there a green one is next to it. Yardflex Please Check Yourself,,,this is the second time Mi Loose afta you...the 1st was your posting of Hurricane Dean pictures, which was nothing


Posted by: nyc on August 29, 2007 02:28 PM

First of all let me say, I am not condoning anything and I am not no JUDGE let GOD be the JUDGE.

The gay rights activist person said he believes in freedom of speech but he does not agree with murder music which to anyone of average sense can understand so I do not see the fuss with that statement.
EX: a lyric can say ...hey nigger what you gonna do - freedom of speech I am sure we can all agree on that.
BUT when it say Kill that nigger, beat up that nigger or niggers when you see them NOW we have to talk. So why cannot one underestand where this activitist is coming from.

Buju is one of the artiste in the business I love to death but wrong is wrong if his or any other artistes lyrics has the intent to hurt or kill anyone may it be gays, lesbians, black, white, chiney.

LASTLY, as I would always say and stick by is:

1. stop bite off di hand dat a feed you. nuff ah dem executives at the major labels dabble in dat kinda stuff. Ah dem dat a sign unno check. all unno artiste who want label deal dun know di deal so why lash out when unno does go to dem party and see everything. so stop try hard to get pon di label dem since unno so against di batty ting because likkle unno cannot stop dem it is a learned behavior just how unno learn to smoke ganja and sex nuff woman and gi dem bun.

2. IF UNNO NEVA EXPERIENCE DI BATTY TING HOW UNNO A SING BOUT IT. IT IS JUST LIKE WHEN MAN GET BUN OR IN LOVE DEM CAN SING BOUT DAT.

OK MI DUN



Posted by: BSS on August 29, 2007 03:04 PM

Dem Gays R STR8 Hipacrites. Dont listen 2 di muzik if ya dont like it. its called Freedom of Speach. SO STEVE - GO SUK YA MADDA


Posted by: slaggy on August 29, 2007 03:27 PM

lawd mi can't beilieve mi eyes,reggae is the most powerful form of music in the world but we getting this fockery from this small gay clan reggae fans its high time we take a stand and let them batty know who run tings,friends of reggae has been trying by all means to fight the batty's but without the full support of the fans and artists we can't win,lets boycott everyting which benifit them from clothes,movies,music etc let name them and shame them,artists should also boycott certain promoters who side with gays ,two can play this game......


Posted by: alfred on August 29, 2007 03:35 PM

bomboclauuut.............bun all da chichi george em self is a batty man all jamaicans need com to africa so we can fight em here cuz they are coming to distroy our yute batty fi get bun and all lesbians mi bun anal sex bounty killer is great no witch no fish


Posted by: jahmar rose on August 29, 2007 05:34 PM

No matter what opposition is there;Jamaican Music will continue to go places.


Posted by: iamthatiam on August 29, 2007 05:35 PM

C R E A T I O N

...a piece treaty dem sign from 2005...look and you shall see...
...corporations promoting dem corporate agendas for di corporate money...
...a big bag a hypocrites ina di bizness right now...tings like piece treaties and dress codes make di people dem forget demselves...

when are the fans going to stand up for word sound power?...mi tell uno..never!...ya know why?...ka most a di "reggae fans" dem ina it fi fashion...seen...ra ra re re...emptiness...

Word must be free same like man must have a right fi carry weapon...fi protect himself gainst his own "government"...Word must be free not ka a legal or illegal this or that...Word is and must be free ka a dat WE use fi free up..seen...get it right...loose the fashion, gain the reason...

...do something!


Posted by: Wade Cameron on August 29, 2007 05:55 PM

Mi nah support nuthing weh promote nastyness. Dem need fi get a life an start worry bout god and how dem break god law.


Posted by: Sean HP on August 29, 2007 06:38 PM

Look at! How dem gay rights groups get so brave. From what I remember reggae music isn't fah dem anyway cuz dem go against GOD's plan.
A weh da f*** da dem.
Big Up Buju,
Big up mi boss Bounti Killa fi life.
And difinietly big up
Addi da Teacha for never signing no contract wid B
attymen.


Posted by: Jermz on August 29, 2007 06:39 PM

First off big up mi artist Killa. Nuh sign no contract and sing whey u want fi sing!! Secondly we are allowing these faggots to have too much power. How just 50 faggot fi stop a reggae show which undoubtedly had thousands of patrons??? If sponsor waan pull out him guh suck him m*mma. We that love reggae need to show our support and full up every concert.
Alliance Mi Seh


Posted by: shack on August 29, 2007 07:55 PM

Big up Jamaicans! Stand your ground! You are the last of a dying breed. Don´t lose this battle, fight it to the end! You have no idea what will happen unless you do. Give them a finger and them take your whole hand. They won´t stop at this. Your artists have street cred and consistency, that´s why it doesn´t matter if sponsors flee. Because the diehard fans will be there anyhow!
Big up Bounty and The Alliance, big up Elephant Man! Big up Kartel! Big up to all the artist that refuse to sign the contract!


Posted by: evad on August 29, 2007 11:12 PM

FIRE EVERLASTING FI ALL FISH

A FULL TIME WHAT IS STILL THE MAJORITY THAT IS US THE STRAIGHT PEOPLE START FIGHT BACK BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

AND WOMEN NEED TO STOP ENCOURAGING FRIENDSHIPS WITH GAY MEN TREATING THEM AS ONE OF THE "GIRLS" AND ALL THAT BULLSHIT



Posted by: BUJU on August 30, 2007 12:42 AM

Yo di b#tty bwoy dem fi dead mi ago personally kill everi one a dem


Posted by: Empire on August 30, 2007 12:44 AM

Fi dem life style is an illusion---- Buddy to pum pum-- dat is di fusion... Dem no affi bi a genius fi come to dis conclusion

Addi


Posted by: Stacey on August 30, 2007 07:14 AM

I must say the one thing I like about GAYS is that they protest and stand up for what they beleive in. Its time that people of God do the same. Christians need to stand up and go throughout the world and proclaim the name of Jesus. if we continue to allow this to happen, sooner than later the gays will take over and out number us. But the GOD of salvation wont allow this to happen. ITS TIME FOR GOD PEOPLE TO STAND UP.


Posted by: Incognito on August 30, 2007 07:18 AM

It's about time that we recognise the world we live in. Gays are here and they are here to stay. Regardless of the way you feel, that is the case. Live and let live, there is nothing anybody can do about it, no point in giving yourself an ulcer over something you cannot change. Artists should be smarter as we all know the Entertainment and Fashion industry are governed by gays. If you want to be an entertainer internationally this is a fact that you will have to face. I am not talking about any small potatoes here, I mean the real movers and shakers in this industry.


Posted by: BAHAMASBABY on August 30, 2007 10:23 AM

Boom nye bye in a batty boy head is correct, we need to do more than that, we need to GASH DEM AND LIGHT DEM.


Posted by: kizi on August 30, 2007 10:37 AM

I am so Sick and tired of these battybwoys trying to change our way of life and our beliefs they act as if they r the only one`s with feelings the time they r worrying about what the djs are saying they should try and find a way to cure AIDS which is killing them,and leave us who dont condone their nastyness.


Posted by: out an bad on August 30, 2007 12:09 PM

topic at the show, at the show fags served u burgers, fries pizza, and bay American food to Jamaican people, what the fcuk was that Mr promoter? u flap, to make it worst the people serving the food was gay and making it known they where gay, jamaican people do not desire to eat from gays smiling up in your face and shyt, acting like its all good, they where giving away free Heineken, to drunk off Jamaican people so we could act up but we restrained, Jamaican people dont want no dam free nothing, so next time Mr promoter know u self, a one thing me know any show a keep at that place again i will not attend, it was a dis to Jamaican people, a one thing me glad over i did not pay a cent to attend, and iam proud of that because it was a waist, next time is Jamaican food we want and Jamaican people selling us food, not some happy go luck gay man, the promoter had it to say he dont overs y the protesters where so upset when there r so much gays in the crowd, me glad i was not next to none, where i was there where only gangsters and girls around no fish, so promoter get it right, all stinking ninja he made a illiterate comment saying 95 percent of Jamaican men r gay and suk puzzy, 95 % ninja? u could have given us more credit than that ninja unless a u a suk and fcuk off the overexagerated percentage u came up with, is wa teck ninja y he made a speech like that, ninja u dis. the show flap period........


Posted by: CREAZY 8 on August 30, 2007 02:23 PM

FIRE FI DI WHOLE A DEM, ME CAN BELEVE ME EYE, DEM CHI CHI MAN DEM A Fc#C UP EVERYTHING, BADMAN CAN DEAL WITH THIS DEM FI SU SU SU SU SU SUCK THE MOOMA !!!!

BOOM BANG !!!!

BLESS UP


Posted by: frass on August 30, 2007 03:04 PM

as a real jamaican... i believe that all battyman fi dead... di big one and di likkle one, all a dem fi dead


Posted by: talk di tings dem on August 30, 2007 03:41 PM

i am sick and tired of these gay+ lesbian people thinking that they run this shit...quite frankly they don't and heterosexuals need to start demonstrating at their shit and letting them know we don't appreciate the shit that they are exposing our children and families too. Reggae and dancehall is part of JA's culture and we are not going to stop that for NOBODY if u don't like the misic don't buy the c.d and don't buy concert tickets ....they need to get the F@@k outa here....


Posted by: SEBASTIAN on August 30, 2007 04:23 PM

"WHEN GAL WAAN BUDDY IF U WORK STOP WORK, IF U A STUDY STOP STUDY" BULLET FI BWOY BEAT BATTY.

STR88 WOMAN FI LIFE. THESE GAYS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND WITH THERE PROTESTING.

I BEG THEM TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM THE PROTEST OR WE MAY JUST HAVE TO RISE THE MACHINES.

ENOUGH SAID. JA 4 LIFE - BLESS UP MI PEOPLE


Posted by: fed up on August 30, 2007 05:09 PM

A long time me a tell di people dem seh we fi start go a some a dem batty man concert and protest. The Batty people a gwaan like a dem alone have freedom of speech. Heterosexuals have rights too and we need to speak up on them before they get taken away.

Dem nah glorify di priest dem whe fuck off the young yute dem; GLAAD would a neva seh dat no right. Me nah live inna a world weh me a go work hard fi send my yute go school only fi dem come a tell me seh teacha tell dem seh it's ok to be a batty man or woman. ME NO DEH PON DAT!!

As for the industry, we have a right to our own values and it's not a matter of violence but speaking out about what we see as injustices and homosexuality is one of them.

A time we tek out stand. If you love the music and you love the artists, den talk up an let your voice be heard. WE NO INNA NUTTEN WITH BATTYISM (man or woman) - PERIOD!!!!!


Posted by: Bradley on August 30, 2007 05:30 PM

"when gal waan buddy if u a work stop work, if u a study stop study." bullet fi bwoy weh love batty.

str88 females roun ere. man to woman. what's so hard in that to understand. God made two sexes not one, okay Mr. Fag. fyah foh all same-sex couples. dem WRONG-UP, everytime they come around the place get FAG-UP.

It's about time they stop their protesting. because they can't stop the movement(maybe in north america...dem too open up there and they end up opening up they wrong thing).

BIG-UP ALL HETEROSEXUALS WORLD WIDE. KEEP IT STR88. BLESS UP


Posted by: T on August 30, 2007 06:44 PM

"...its because a di truth I say...babylon wish I fi dead...all who sign a peace treaty now rest in peace ina cemetery..."


Posted by: supared on August 30, 2007 07:01 PM

well free speech is being used by the artists. but free speech also belongs to gays. they are also entited to assemble. they put financial pressure on the organisers of carifest. nobody's rights were taken away. it works both ways.

bun fassy.


Posted by: petagaye28 on August 30, 2007 08:03 PM

I completely agree with everyone who is suggesting we as Jamaicans/Carribeans really support our artists and their concerts. Gays are powerful and have tremendous influence because they understand the power of unity and that is one important advantage they have over us. We Jamaicans especially are among the least united of people and it is impossible for us to progress as a result of our lack of unity.

I am not bashing anyone's lifestyle. Since we all have rights the same rights Homosexuals have to their lifestyle then the rest of us "abnormal" people have every right to disagree with their lifestyle and be vocal about it. I think if the artists are not making any reference to homosexuals then they should leave them alone. I think our artists should be more creative in the manner in which they express their dissatisfaction. Instead of mentioning anything about gays, be pro heterosexuals. I have the utmost respect for all the artists particulary those getting a fight right now. We all know if it wasn't for a woman and a man procreating none of us would be in existence.

I do commend Bounti on his courage to address what was going on, but I do think he may have jeopardized the future earnings for "dancehall artists" as a result of his actions. If you sign an agreement despite being angry and feeling wronged you should abide by the terms that you agreed to and if you did not keep your end of the agreement then you should not be compensated. He could have expressed his disappointment by expressing his compliance to his hetrosexual lifestyle. It is not what you do it is how you do it. You can express your disatisfaction but you have to be smart and creative in your expression. Peace and love to all.


Posted by: FOOLS WILL BE FOOLS on August 30, 2007 11:55 PM

I am amazed at the deep level of ignorance demonstrated on this thread of posts. Why is it so hard to love your fellow man regardless of his nature? You act like you have a right to express hatred and viloence towards another human being who is equal to you in the eyes of God. Shame on you to act Bigger than God... to judge the worth of another man. What you are taught you think you believe is right and correct because it is all you know(and through ignorance, it's all you want to know), rather than opening up your eyes and mind to understand other human beings.... You see, I am sure there were others that came before me that were trying to get white people to understand that black people were also human beings(equal in the eyes of God), but the white man's "Culture" was the same as yours now... that was a part of white man's culture to use a black human being as a slave... to hang them, to beat them to stone them, to chant lyrics about hanging them and burning them and to throw parties during the burning and hanging so everyone could see it and laugh and have fun. If that is your "Culture" (sick)as you all seem to put it as a justification, then I would pray for your "Culture", pray for mercy on all of your ignorant souls. But in my sadness for you, I have a spark of faith that in love and goodness, some day Jamaica will wake up out of the stone-age and join the world of people who respect one another as fellow brothers and sisters regardless of color or nature or what ever-- and bring true meaning and Godliness to the term "one-blood" because that is the Truth and God is the Truth. We are only on this planet for a short time. To live with hatred and anger is for what benefit of the soul I ask?

Go on... keep singing about killing someone, burn the chi chi man, raise up your hands and chant as your white brothers have in the past...throw stones at the batty-man... repeat history... continue to fill your heart with hatred and anger and spread the word of hate... and see where the Jamican "Culture" as you all put it winds up? God forgive you all for you know not what you have done. I pray for you all.
Sincerely, from... a white man who has devoted his life to supporting equality and liberty for african people.


Posted by: Jubba Azifmikayre on August 31, 2007 04:35 AM

THIS IS Y MI CANT DISS KILLA, CUZ DEM MAN DEH DEFEND WHAT IS RIGHT. KILLA SEH IM NAH BOW FI VANITY.

NOW THESE EDIOT GAYS DEM, A TALK BOUT THE ARTISTE DEM, A SEH FI MURDER GAYS. IS NOT THE ARTISTE DEM SAY SO. IS GOD SAY THAT. THE VERY BIBLE SAYS THEY SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH.

DEM A INSULT GOD. CUZ HE CREATED WOMEN FOR MEN. AND DEM GAYS HERE 'A REVERSE DI TING'.

MI SURE SAY IF MI MURDER A GAY GOD NOT GONNA SEND ME TO HELL. EVEN THOUGH THE BIBLE STATES THAT THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

ME, PERSONALLY, BELIEVE SAY PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SELF AND SPEECH.

BUT THE GAY THING RASTA NUH MEK IT AT ALL. AND SOME MAN BUN DEM OUT AND A GO BACK AGAINST THEIR WORD.

NOTHING IS WORSE THAN A MAN GOING AGAINST HIS OWN WORD. THAT IS NEXT TO SELLING U SOUL.

YOU CANT BE CLAIMING TO BE A MAN AND U CANT FIND JUSTIFICATION IN U OWN FRIGGING THOUGHTS...

A JUST SO ME FEEL STILL...

ALLIANCE MI SEH...


Posted by: Djkess on August 31, 2007 09:23 AM

TELL ALL THEM BL**D CLATH CHI CHI& SODOMITE FI SUCK THEM MUMMA AL LONG TIM MIH AH JUGGLE WHA DEM AGO GO MEK ME SIGN CONTRACT TOO?? MAN SUCK OUT YUH MUMMA ME AH GO CONTINUE KILL THEM WHA CAPLETON SAY
((SLEEEEEWWWW DEEEEEMMMMMM)))

JUGDEMENT FI DEM


Posted by: niney on August 31, 2007 09:47 AM

as a person out a germoney mi tink different.if anyI dont like any group of people it is up to him (and should be),and it should be possible to him/her to mention dat. but putting violance against human in form of song, book, art can lead to a big time massacre like we had in germoney. because of hate against jews germons killed millions of people. and this isnt in the sense of di lawd too. cause men shall not kill! mi dont wanna go on anyI´s nerves because of whitemans labberish !black man arise! I jus wanted to make people tink about where all this hate against human will end. some people a idiat...fight dem with words and mek yu self a rolemodel fi others, be a prophet. thats how you change the ting not by licks ore shots or fia. jus my oppinion. be blessed.


Posted by: BahamasBaby on September 1, 2007 10:26 AM

These people that are protesting are stupit stupit stupit.
They want to be around the world rubing up and kissing up in front of our children, and not want straight people like us to be have anything to say about it, we as a people need to continue to fight these low live before it reaches our home, or even close to it.
Big up all the artist how continues to sing about these situations.


Posted by: Jubba Azifmikayre on September 2, 2007 03:58 AM

FREEEL INNO EVAD. SOME A DEM GIRLS A SPAR WID DEM FREEL.

AND WE CANT FORGET SEH THE GAYS THEM HAVE THE CORPORATE JOBS THEM. UNNO SEE ALL THE GAY SENATOR?

THE GAYS THEM FULL A POWER A DEM RUN DI WORLD.

BUT HOW WE FI MAKE A FEW HOLD THOUSANDS? AND THEM ANO SPARTANS OR HAVE SPARTAN BLOOD.

DEM FI GWEH.

ALLIANCE MI SEH...


Posted by: Outlaw on September 2, 2007 10:16 AM

Hey jamaican ppl we need fi support Bounty Killa n di stance him tech against battyman i support him 1000% n what we need 2 do is 2 support his shows when he is keeping them. Because it is possible that those faggot might try 2 stop him from entering the USA, we can show them that we can support him the USA is not the greatest place in the world. Bounty dont give up mi bredda n i hope we jamaican will really support him now more dan eva. Bounty 1 love mi bredda n mi have u back 1000% continue to do u ting i respect that n so most jamaican. If we allow these dogs 2 take ova di world our kids will suffa lets take a true stance against them also. N remember the chain is as strong n its weakest link. Lets stand up 4 the entertainer who is against gay 4 life.


Posted by: Mega on September 2, 2007 08:59 PM

I am a Jamaician living in Canada and i'm sick and tired of these homosexuals pretending to be the only one with rights....what about heterosexual rights? Sadly, as much as foreign is full of fish, it's our own Jamaicans who are the instigating this movements against our reggae artist, and the ones bashing the music, most ppl in power cant even understand patois muchless to decipher the lyrics of say- bounty killa, kartel, even buju- with their rapid flow.

These jamaican fish(who are living here) are the ones who become interpreters of the lyrics for the gay activists.

They are the ones lodging the complaints to the foreign governments in hopes of attaining asylum or to promote and protect their dirty lifestyle.

They are the ones notifying the gay activist groups of who will be performing and what these particular artists represent.

I am gonna be bold a say this CAH NUH FISH CAAN TOP MI FROM TALK.....homosexuality is the deadliest virus known to man, not even Aids come close which could also be considered a bi-product though can be spread otherwise. If not then tell me this... if everyone turns gay today will the world have a future?


Posted by: babyphat on September 2, 2007 09:26 PM

a wah de bloodclaat a gwaan dem bloodclaat fish caan stop wi fram our musci mi guh deh dead a raas bush a wah dem feel like? dem lucky seh unnuh a jamdown dem deh deh wudda get some bullet weh nuh stop ya suh.bullet fi dem fish dem!!!!


Posted by: Gabriel on September 3, 2007 08:35 AM

Wat a gawn wit the gay guys them . they need to control themself. Tek way uself, woman and man for creation , man and man a pure distruction gawn check Leviticus ch.20 vs 13 and tell me wat that means u fool hearted mad ones trying to polute mankind with this foolishness beg u fe stop it and gawn go hide till jah jah come fe.Tek way uself boom bye bye.Not me say that but god almighty.


Posted by: Brooklyn on September 3, 2007 10:00 AM

NYC~~ What stupiness you are talking, bout don't bite off the hand that feeds you, that the problem unno too licky licky, want people to give you things. Yes we know sey nuff one in the music industry is gay, but nuff of dem don't share the same views as these idiot protesters. Yo, most of the artist is question, control their own record companies and labels, they nah beg no batty bwoy nothing, all they need to do is promote their business properly. NYC~~ Check yourself, this is not a competiton between this is about control, the idiot gay protesters are trying to control these artist, by forcing dem to sign, then cock up dem stinking batty and laugh off the whole of dem. My advice to all artist in question, if you sign your career is doom, if you ones advising you to sign RUN DEM.

Bless... Flatbush Crew.


Posted by: shantae on September 3, 2007 12:58 PM

Everybody hav dem own believe an if we jamaicans believe battyman an lesbian serve no purpose...nobody can change that so dem keep protest... the artist dem naw stop talk against dem an wi naw stop support we artist dem......IF U STAND FOR NOTHING U FALL FOR ANYTHING!...boom bye bye big up buju bounty and the rest who say fire pon faggot and sadamite!!!


Posted by: 1orders on September 3, 2007 04:33 PM

NO SLACKNESS SPEAK DI TRUTH DEM FI ERADICATE FROM LIFE SEND DI MESSEAGE ARTISTS JUS LIKE WE


Posted by: itai on September 4, 2007 07:57 AM

bun al di chichi mann dem nuh mann or woman hav a rigth to a siner


Posted by: EmpressT on September 4, 2007 02:26 PM

This is so ridiculous. I am in America and I have to say that this country sucks...run by a punch of pu**ys for sure! I am so tired of these groups of faggots rallying about their damn rights. What the hell does ANYONE singing about them negatively actually do to them? Are their rights being violate; is Buju preventing them from living their daily lives?

What kinda fu*kery is this country coming to? They just let the group of people feel they are privileged and NO ONE must disagree or show any disdain for their lifestyle, or else. Why the hell should they have so much pull? Who the fu*k told them they were so special?

You have a whole damn industry of White Supremacists signing about all types of foolishness and when they having their little concerts, do you see a group of angry blacks and Jews protesting to shut them down? HELL NO. Who the hell has time for that? Yes, you don’t like it, but you DON”T have to listen to it…you DO HAVE a choice! Furthermore, what they are singing has NO actual bearing on my daily life.

I don’t know if these gays realize or not, but it’s by them doing this sort of stuff over and over again, interfering w/ other people lives because they are offended by someone else’s public disagreement w/ their lifestyle, that actually causes people to hate them. What they do is their business and I certainly don’t agree, but I never feel to actually kick them in their heads until they do some sh*t like this. And the more and more they do this type of stuff, the larger and larger my disgust grows for them. And I guarantee this…if I EVER were at an event, worst one that I paid money to attend, and they caused for it to be shut down by their foolish antics, I would be one of the main ones to pick up something and bludgeon one of them if a riot were to start. They have a friggen audacity that is so outlandish…NO ONE has to accept you if they don’t want to…that is NOT your GOD given right! What Buju or anyone sings doesn't make me want to harm you, it's what you actually DO that makes me want to do something.


Posted by: kings on September 4, 2007 08:45 PM

yooo di reason why battyman and lesbian dem have power is ca seh di same senator and big government officials a homosexual dem selves and dem ahve secret fi dem..dem seh sadomy is illegal..but yet dem mek man a fuk batty..u see ow dem contradict dem selves..lissen mi ppl nuh tink seh ca u live inna di US seh u have freedom of anything..wen dem write dat deh constitution..dm never did a write it fi black ppl suh nuh fuk unuh self and tink seh u a get anything free..not even di words out a u mouth free..u av fi pay fi dat..bottom line is we no unify fi nuttin now a days..di malcom x, marcus garvey, martin luther bloodline nuh deh bout..but it funny ow man can ge up and seh im a order man or clans man or im a represent a next garrison wid im soldier dem but dem caan com together protest against dem fukry ya..shit come outa batty suh ow dat fi right ..kissteeth..yoo


Posted by: Utter fukry on September 5, 2007 02:36 PM

dis is sucj frockin bulshit, wa rong wid di fish dem, dem fi go bout.


Posted by: Imani on September 6, 2007 02:35 PM

We have to UNITE and FITE... no surrender... no COMPROMISE... no RETREAT... We have to stand up for what we believe in ... The Artists are merely voicing their disagreemnt with homosexuality in their lyrics... who has ever harmed or killed someone because of a Buju or a Bounty song?

The music does not incite violence... if anything incites violence against gays its the BIBLE, the pope, the Church etc....

We have to UNITE and FITE and support the real Jamaican reggae artist like BUJU and Bounty who really represent our culture.... and disregard the others who sell out...


Posted by: Imani on September 6, 2007 04:35 PM

Elephant man has been hugging up with the other side... how the world a run...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXLCpNNdc4&mode=related&search=


Posted by: Justin on September 6, 2007 09:24 PM

Here is what me tink. I tink most Jamaicans are GAY. Especially the men. They dress in tight clothes, they do their hair like girls. And they sleep wit each other all the time. When I was in Jamaica recently for christmas I went to a concert in emancipation park. I have never seen so many GAY peple in my life. Good looking men too. The were all staring at me like they wanted to lick me like a pop. I saw the same ting when I was at Asylum. The guard felt me dick and pulled on me wood. I met so many Gay people inJamiac more than I have ever met in New York. So, me tink it is as Shakesbear said many certuries ago "me thinks me protest too much" meaning if you complain about someone orr something too much, you are really hiding your inner feelings about yourself. All you posts here including the Artists are really GAy themselves. Why would you spend so much timeand trouble otherwise. Keep up the good work GAy Artists Beenie, BUJU and the rest of dem.


Posted by: Jubba Azifmikayre on September 10, 2007 04:17 AM

EH FISH JUSTIN. MI A COME KILL U!!! LIKKLE FISH.


ALLIANCE MI SEH...


Posted by: Imani on September 10, 2007 08:13 AM

JUSTIN,

As the childhood saying goes and it is such an appropriate response to your post given its juvenile content, in your case it is OBVIOUS that it takes one to know one. Please stay away from Jamaica and keep your abnormal lifestyle in New York and not infect our culture any more than it already is and please stop disrespecting my favorite Artist Buju.


Posted by: Imani on September 10, 2007 10:24 AM

People, ther are many people out there who are PROMOTING and ENCOURAGING homosexual lifestyle... see the videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqhnIv3YjR0&mode=related&search=

Like I said before Unite and Fight... we have a right to disagree with homosexuality based on our culture, traditions, morals, religion etc...


Posted by: abednego on September 12, 2007 07:42 AM

this has been going on for far too long and the gay rights activists have taken this way too far and its time we stood up for what i rightly believe is a the erosion of blackman culture, reggae music is probabaly the most powerful tool God gave to the blackman and reggae artists have the obligation to do what is right by JAH. soddom and gomorrah were destroyed because men had perverted themselves beyond redemption, to be gay is to be less than an animal in stature and we cant have them gay people changing our culture, we got to stand and defend the artists because they are one of our strongest weapons against the babylonic propaganda of the white man and his croonies. long live buju and bounty and big up to all anti gay reggae artists. we shall stand by you no matter what!


Posted by: OLLIE on September 12, 2007 04:26 PM

@ Jubba Azifmikayre aka Evad Aka Spiderman

MI FIND DEBBIE'S RESPONSE TO JUBBA AKA EVAD aka spiderman VERY FUNNY! PPL JUBBA JOIN HAND WITH THE BATTY BOYS TO SHUT DOWN BUJU BANTON'S SHOW RECENTLY..PLEASE READ DEBBIE'S RESPONSE TO HIM..


Posted by: Jubba Azifmikayre on August 28, 2007 06:19 PM

BIG HOLE RASKAL.

RAE!!!!!!!!!!! GO DEH RASKAL WOIIEEEEE!!!!!

MY YUTE HOW U CAN GWAAN LIKE MI GAL SO YUTE? A CUSS WITH THE GIRL.

ALL A TALK BOUT PPL KISS U ASS AND PPL WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. AH HA HA..

REAL BITCH. THATS Y NADINE HAFFI CALL U TRANSVESTITE.

BOUT>>>>>>>>>>>"MY LIFE AND MY LIFE STYLE IS A LIFE OF ENVEY."<<<<<<< NIGGA YOUR LIFESTYLE IS TABOO...

AND NIGGA U SPELL ENVY WRONG.

LIKKLE BITCH AVOID DI GIRL CHI CHI MAN...

ALLIANCE MI SEH...

DEBBIE'S RESPONSE TO JUBBA AKA EVAD AKA SPIDERMAN

Posted by: Debbie on September 11, 2007 10:25 AM

@ Jubba


How ironic, up a top Jubba a call another Man big "HOLE".My question is how would Jubba know seh a man hole big if he wasn't going deh..Next thing is Jubba calling de man chi chi man and TRANSVESTITE when a nuh de man a talk bout Jubba hole big, Jubba is the one a talking bout de man hole big.The answer sounds more like Jubba is finally coming to the conclusion that he might have "GAY" tendencies. Or he's finally coming out of the closet.WOW!!! Raskal really know how to use psychological warfare effective to mek Jubba finally come out the closet.The next thing is Raskal have two houseS one in La and a summer home in South Beach Miami,Jubba is currently sharing a dorm room with another man/room mate as a student which he's post in Another chat room seh then male student acts funny ...hmmmmm hmmm does any gets the picture, something really sounds fishy Jubba.Are you peeping on your room mates ass hole to see if it's big or small when he is taking a shower?.You are a sick f88K JUBBA AKA EVAD aka Spiderman!!!!!!!


@ Raskal

Big up you self Mr Sell Offfffffffff aka Raskal and get back from Toronto Canada safe and sound we have to go to Florida together and put some Bl**dCl**t.licks on Jubba


Posted by: Justin on September 13, 2007 09:28 PM

Juba & Imani: I love you despite your deep ignorance. I love all Jamaican people for the raw spirit of the culture not the make belive one that some like you have created. Most Jamicans I know do not hate like you. I will come to Jamaica often because I visit your highest Religious Leaders regualrly who in the privacy of God's church try to figure out how to educuate their own people who are so pitifully ignorant like yourselves. If you want to kill battyman then look at the Aug 30 post titled fools will be fools... you be fool'n yo own damn selves, and teh more that you hate the more hate will come your way. if you want to kill battyman then you gona have to kill 80% of teh men in jamaica. then yo can have all dem pretty girls to yoselfs. why do you tink no body respects Jamaica... becasue of teh backward peoples like u. I have spenta goodly amount of time promotin the smart Jamaicans... teh come to America and get dem real good jobs. teh ybehave like true chritians and although they think foundly of the Jamaica they left.. they realize the backward ways are the true destruction of teh country.... wake up my great Jamaicans..... live life of love and positive attidude don't be hate'n another human for them differences.... don't be preachen hatred tha will come back to haunt you in God church.. Only love and giving to all people is th eright way... don't be listening to the small brains of des silly boys be burn'n too much spliff so dem brains don't be workin too good. Dont be spendin your life hat'n and being ugly heart.... killing is for satin only rebuke dem satin loving haters. you know they talk nutt'n but som hateful stuff. keep love in your heart and pray for Jamaica, pray for Jamaica to lift itself out of the poverty, pray that the government will apply the country's money into improvement of the people, pray that the governementwill lift up the repspect of teh country, to show the world that the country can educate its people and not oppress them and keep them ignorant like dem haters. If you want a better life for yourself and Jamaica live your life towards love and God for goodness sake, and educate your children... pushthe government to provide free education... that is teh root to avoiding selfdestruction.... ignorance will kill Jamaica faster than some innnocent battyman.

Raise up fight for your freedom and right, and take your desreving place in the World community.

break teh chains of slavery of your most ignorant peoples like Juba & Imani: I do pray for thems also. God loves them too.
Justin


Posted by: Doctor on September 15, 2007 11:05 AM

MOST PEOPLE outside of Europe and the US think that sexual intercourse between people of the same sex is WRONG... MOST religions PREACH that intercourse between persons of the same sex is WRONG... We have a right to our own CULTURE and our ARTIST have a right to VOICE their disagreement with the extremely degenerate behavior popularly called homosexuality...

These artists songs DO NOT cause violence... they are simply reflecting the CULTURE...

People who classify themselves as homosexuals are not similare to an ethnic group... they do dnot all come form one particular place, with a defined culture... etc.


Posted by: Justin on September 15, 2007 11:09 PM

Yes Doctor: You have a right to speak when it lifts up mankind.

Do do not have an inherent right to speak hatred and violence "k*lling" & "buring" that is what we had in teh US not all that long ago, in fact as late as teh 1960's when the KKK made the same argument as you make now!!! The KKK said it was thier right to preach hatred of blacks becasue tehy found something in teh bible that said blacks were not worthy of human rights. They fought to keep preaching about k*lling the black man like a dog. In fact they had dogs attack and k*ll innocent blacks for sport. Their chants and songs mirrored the hatred in your anthems of k*lling and hatred. You have a lot of growing up to do. OPen your eyes beyond your island and your culture of ignorance. It is your prison and as long as you hate, you will be a prisoner to your hate. Lift for your self up for heaven sakes. Don't let the evile of the KKK terrosits live in your heart. Terror and preaching terror to others is a form of self-hatered and anti-social thoughts of those with very low self esteem. God Loves you too. Lift your head up high for God, free your soul from hate of all forms, and he will show you the way to heaven.


Posted by: Doctor on September 17, 2007 09:03 PM

Justin,
Spread your homosexual propaganda on another website... how are Reggae Artists comparable to the KKK? Did they go around lynching Black people? Do they have the power to terrorize and victimize like the KKK? Are they sanctioned by the government like the KKK was in the SOUTH?
Comparing the "homosexual struggle" to the African holocaust is simple comparing apples and oranges... Africans were a definable group of people (most Africans can't go in the closet) who were kidnapped, dehumanized, grossly mistreated and exploiyed for hundreds of years and the Africans today inherited that legacy... they were lynched, burned alive and had many other atrocities committed against them for many many years. Moreover this treatment for the most part was sanctioned by the state... being black is an immutable obviosly biological characteristic that we as black people can not change unless you are Michael Jackson and he realized that he could not completely change his race when he was arrested... Homosexuals have been looking for the "gay" gene for the last 50 years and still cant find it and they wont find it because every scientist who has studied sexuality except the homosexual ones or the ones paid by homosexuals have come to the conclusion that all sexual behavior is learned behavior... its cultural...

Which leads me back to my culture... my point that homosexuality goes AGAINST almost EVERY African tradition; Given that in traditional African society a man's wealth is determined by the number of children he has... we have every right to Encourage heterosexual relationships and discourage homosexual ones... if only for the sake of the family...

Go to another website to encourage such degenerate behavior... I certainly don't hate homosexiuals BUT I STRONGLY disagree with homosexuality and I have a right to MY BELIEFS just as you have a RIGHT to yours... SO we will simply have to agree to DISAGREE... you can not change JAMAICA and you can not change me...

NOT every one in JAMAICA is for sale... As they would say in the Jamaican languange "fire fi you"; so that you wont misunderstand I like the Reggae Artists meant that figurtively... it would translate to "I am not with that dude... I disagree with you."


Posted by: Justin on September 18, 2007 10:42 PM

Good Doctor: You have my respect for concluding that we can disagree. But never say that you cannot be changed. People will come into your life and change you becuase they have God's spirit. If God sent Jesus back, you would change your view. No man is better than another in Gods eyes, point blank end of discussion. If you attempt to argue otherwise you arein deniel of God's greatness. And be reminded when Jesus came to earth and spent his loving time NOT with the righteous but with regular pepole who lived regualr lives who were sinners... because that's what regualr people do jusrt like everyone else... sin... that's why we are humans and NOT GODS has you would pretend people should be.

My wife disagrees with your earlier comments that try to make an issue out of why it is OK to hate people because they are not black and that one is born black. I agree with her that you miss the point. The KKK k*lled people becasue they they thought they were doing a big favor to all white people by k*lling blacks.... do not get confussed with the political rehtoric. Anyone that thinks or preaches or encourages hurting innocent people for some "notion" that they are helping their culture is nothing more than a KKK dude saying that he is helping culture by k*lling all the blacks... It is dishonest for you to attempt to blurr that basic truth. No body is asking you to kiss a GAY person or even shake their hand... simply just cleans your soul from hate and let people lives their owns lives.

No body here is spreading propaganda as you suggest. Propaganda is for politicians and governments. I merely speak the truth and try very hard to live my life with truth and honesty and love as Jesus would... to love your fellow humans regardless of what they are. How can you in your heart fault a man for that?

My wife is Jamican and we have three children, one of whom is gay. So know you know why I care! He met a good Jamaican boy while we were down two years ago and we were able to get him papers to come to the US. (so you have one less gay person down there to worry about). He now lives without fear and is attending Columbia University and is studying to become a lawyer. He says his dream is to help Jamaica financially when he gets a good job. He is a grade A student. You know many Jamicans are very very smart but have no opportunity to become what they have as potential because of the poor conditons down there and that is in large part because of the oppression they experience in their own country. To oppress people to be who they are is a tragedy.

That all brings me to the point I have tried to make since I saw this article in the first place and read all eh yignorant comments. No one says you have to agree with anything gay, but to preach words (in song or public speach) glorifying hatred, and k*lling and buring and stoning just like the KKK did only a few decades ago (and got away with it because the CULTURE accepted it) and to now act like it is your right to do it becaue of culture is simply either blind foolishness or plainly intended to simply ignore the truth. So, I supposes we will then have to disagree but for me with an opened mind, for I have learned things from you and you might persuade me to think something different someday. Bu I am open to thoughts as long as they come from a true heart and not one filled with hatred. I understand the jamaican language and I know very well what is figurative and what is pure hate. Not all of dance hall is filled with hate and fact most is not. This is not an attack on dance hall.. just hate.

All of this talk started from the discussion of music. Dance Hall, which is great... I love it too minus some of the lyrics of course. The lyrics that preach hatred and violence gets run down herein the US and abroad in the UK. We have laws against this type of hatred and speach that incites violence or preacheds violence. Many of our laws in teh US date back fromt the time of the KKK because they said they had a right to say Death to all Nig**rs, burn them stone them hang them.... that is why we have people over here trippin'n when they here the lyrics calling for death, buring, beating gays... it violates our laws and protections of human rights we have. So what is it so hard to come to the US and abide by our laws of protection and fairness. Many artists are waking up to this because most of these artist are just that ... artists and in my opinion the best artists, as I believe jamaica has the most talented artists and vocalists on teh planet... who want to perform and have their music enjoyed by all (and to make a good living too.. nothing wrong with that). I just saw a documentary whre elephant man has said regarding th egay issue and the loss of hundreds of thousands of US money that his position is "live and let live" they don't bother me and I don't bother them. Tna is a good start to and a small step towards respecting humans of different composition. Well I hope some good has come of all this?!

Peace, Justin


Posted by: Doctor on September 19, 2007 02:05 PM

Spread your lies and propaganda some where else like I said before. You obviously are a homosexual, you don't have a wife for one minute... and even if you did you are still GAY.

This site is mostly used by young adults not people with children in college.

So "Justin" your cover has been blown. Your argumens are nonsensical. The Artists don't hate gay people nor are they afraid of them. They simply STRONGLY disagree with homosexuality because of their religios beliefs and their culture. They use extremely violent and harsh "lyrics" to get the point as is the Dancehall tradition. Consumers of the music KNOW that the music is not meant to be taken literally and the artists are not inciting violence against anyone. Just like Bob Marley did not shoot the Sherrif.

You could NEVER change my mind with your asanine arguments. I like Reggae artists have a right to our own culture and beliefs. And we have freedom of expression to be able to express those beliefs.

And for your information same sex intercourse is a crime in MOST of the world and there is not human right to being homosexual.

Furthermore, many reputable psychologists still consider homosexuality a mental illness.

Don't patronize me "Justin" with your diatribe about god and love. Who are you to judge myself or the Reggae Artists? The militant homosexual lobby groups are the ones filled with hate. Hate for Reggae Atrtists for their uncompromising position and hate for Nature and the very natural order of things...

Again I say "fire fi you". And I hope I don't have to explain that statments figurative meaning again. This is my last post on the subject. SO as we say in Jamaica. Argument DUN!


Posted by: Justin on September 19, 2007 09:10 PM

Dun. Go in Peace!


Posted by: listen ugly jamaicans on September 21, 2007 09:25 PM

maybe you jamaicans should learn to spell and stop being stinky and poor and stop blaming the gays for your problems. it is YOUR fault that your are poor, stupid, illiterate, and violent. it is not anybody elses fault. it is 2007 and you live like savages from a 1000 years ago. You hate the gays because we are richer than you. In jamaica you would k*ll me but in america you are my garbage man. one of you picks up my smelly garbage every week.


Posted by: Justin on September 23, 2007 08:08 AM

By showing your ugly heart you have allowed hatred to penetrate yourself as well and your own ignorance for not understanding that these people have lived with a certain culture for many years, and it is difficult to change a cultural belief over night. I go forward as did MLK. You can only change people's minds with love, a word of fairness, non-violence, and above all as God would want us to behave- mutual respect and love for all men and women. The economic plight of Jamaicans hardly has anything to do with this issue, but better time could be spent by all to help the country get a government that is really out to help its people.

Do not live with hate in your heart, you will never have peace of mind.


Posted by: warteecha on September 28, 2007 11:46 AM

Tha 50 gay mostly comprised of Alliace.....Bounty Killer n Mafraudo a match dem streets against Dancehall god Beenie.....bullet to all alliance fish boy


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