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June 17, 2007
Beenie Man & Sizzla in alliance with Stop Murder Music Campaign
By: C.J.
Photos by: Carlington Wilmot
Bob Marley said when the music hits you'll feel no pain. This is somewhat the mission of Gay-rights activist Peter Thatchell and his Stop Murder Music campaign. His recently launched Reggae Compassionate Act, states they "respect and uphold the rights of all individuals to live without violence due to their religion, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity or gender."
International Reggae artistes Beenie Man and Sizzla agree. Reliable sources disclosed that both historically anti-gay artistes have signed a new agreement that encourage the global community to enjoy their music without fear of violence. The overall gist of the agreement resonates that "there's no space in the music community for hatred and prejudice, including no place for racism, violence, sexism or homophobia." Therefore, they are in a contractual agreement, "not to make statements or perform songs that incite hatred or violence against anyone from any community."

Thatchell acknowledges that although the Act is a first step, it represents a quantum leap in combating a history of aggressive homophobic attitudes and lyrics within the reggae/dancehall genre. He explained that, "The Reggae Compassionate Act is a big breakthrough. The singers' rejection of homophobia and sexism is an important milestone. We rejoice at their new commitment to music without prejudice. Having these major reggae stars renounce homophobia will influence their fans and the wider public to rethink bigoted attitudes."
Even though sources have confirmed that Beenie Man and Sizzla are a part of the Stop Murder Music Campaign; there is a glaring omission of other artistes with anti-gay lyrics who have yet to sign up for the campaign, including TOK, Capleton, Elephant Man, Bounty Killa, Vybz Kartel, and Buju Banton.
We caught up with Capleton briefly and he thinks that his fellow artistes did not sign such an agreement. However, he is unaware of such an Act. According to the fireman King Shango, "eeh eeh, no one has contacted me and I don't know what this is all about."
At current press time, we were unable to reach Beenie Man and Sizzla for comments. As soon as Yardflex gets it from the horses’ mouth, it will be in print. This is definitely an interesting story to follow as many of these prominent artiste have been losing fans, funds and following due to their stance on the lesbian and gay lifestyle. Sizzla had Tours in Europe cancelled as a result of groups like OutRage' lobby. OutRage is a direct action campaigning group in the United Kingdom, which was formed to fight for the rights of lesbian, gay and bisexual people.
According to OutRage, in April 2002, it was Sizzla who, at a reggae concert in Chicago boasted that he kills queers; and also incited the audience to murder gays and lesbians: "mi nuh go tek back mi chat... mi kill sodomite and ba**yman dem bring aids and disease pon people... shot an kill dem, mi nuh go tek back mi chat." Again, for those astist like Sizzla Kolanji and Beenie Man, their public words and militant stance against gays and lesbian may comeback to haunt their careers.
Posted by yardFlex at June 17, 2007 11:50 PM
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Posted by: Jermz
on June 18, 2007 07:42 AM
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Mi nuh surprise seh beenie would do it but kolonji kinda let mi down if him really sign dat. dat means that the rasta man apologize.
Alliance Mi Seh
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Posted by: wowsky
on June 18, 2007 08:40 AM
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yo this story is interesting i saw it first on yahoo news but i need to hear it from the horses mouth but we all know beenie a drag queen sizzla now no futher comment.
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Posted by: Wade Cameron
on June 18, 2007 08:47 AM
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Wha wrong wit dem people ya. Mek di mon dem do dem ting. Unno need fi stop wit di frockry an go apoligize to god.
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Posted by: twister
on June 18, 2007 10:00 AM
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Irie FM spoke to Beenie man and he stated that he did not sign this agreement and for the record its just another attempt by the batty boy dem because when this first came out it stated that Beenie man Sizzla and Chapleton had sign this agreement and you peps realy believe that. the Promoters for shows in Europe sign this agreement let them produce signitures of the atrist then i believe
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Posted by: out an bad
on June 18, 2007 10:05 AM
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yard flex we the people send u out on a mission to come back with answers and this is all u have to report, we want better that this, live up to your name and go out on a little flex and find out the real deal, not some half azz story to settle the reader mind, my mind is too open to just accept what u r telling in this posting, we want more. the half azz store capleton gave is bullshyt if u ask me, he thinks that his fellow artistes did not sign, he thinks capleton teck jamaican people fe idiot, bout him think, when him on stage a talk the business he seem to know what the fcuk he is talking about, now reality force up in his face he wants to think, its a simple question he was asked, what the hell is he thinking about, is yes r no mr fire man, did u signe the paper yes r no, not i think. then he say he know not what going on, well he needs to know whats really good.
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Posted by: Drew
on June 18, 2007 10:52 AM
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THIS FISH BOY PETER A TRY HARD FI CHANGE MAN CULTURE
IT NAAH HAPPEN..
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Posted by: YemenJ
on June 18, 2007 10:57 AM
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i have proof that beenie n sizzla signed these contracts
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Posted by: Euwaton
on June 18, 2007 11:19 AM
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Elephant man was on onstage last week and he said he will sign it. He said if a man wants to be gay thats his business and their is no need to keep singing about that. He said if a man want to be a DJ all he have to do is go on stage and say all who nuh like gays put up unno hand to get a forwards.
Ele also said, "duh" when asked a question. Ele seems gay friendly. He doesnt agree with the lifestyle but he says djs need to sing about other things.
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Posted by: biggie
on June 18, 2007 11:30 AM
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if as it go then this artists are big time fagets,cuz no matter wat happen the truth is truth,any man kind caught lying down with another man must be put to death,the quran talk about it like wise the bible.....a gambia me come from any man try that him bl**d cl*d dead.....so if this artist sign a deal just to have access inna foreing dem me can belive that they a really human....man must stick to his words and the fish man a jamaica fi stop the nonsence and be concious..........biggie from the gambai west africa
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Posted by: slaggy
on June 18, 2007 12:40 PM
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send the evidence to yardflex so we can see it s*d*mite fi bun they now trying to divide we as dancehall fans instead of believing in our artists now we are wondering if they signed ,those two are most stubborn artists when it come to fish boy they nuh apologise......
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Posted by: SEXY SAGGI
on June 18, 2007 01:52 PM
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WELCOME THE KING OF THE DANCEHALL!!!
ANOTHER SMART TACTICAL MOVE ON THE PART OF THE KING, THE GAYS GOT MONEY TO SPEND TOO... GIVE THEM A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY AND STILL BUN FIRE ON DEM!!! THE GOT MORE GAY PPL IN THE WORLD THAN STRAIGHT ONES SO, I CAN SEE THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT BY MY ARTISTE... HE GOT HE CHILDREN TO SUPPORT AND HIS OWN LIFE TO LIVE SO IF THEY BUY RECORDS, HE MAKES MONEY ...
ONCE AGAIN BRILLIANCE EXHIBITED FROM THE KING!!!
BLESSINGS FOREVER!!!
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Posted by: Bung Bang
on June 18, 2007 01:56 PM
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Posted by: hits
on June 18, 2007 02:31 PM
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Wsas about to fire bun but see it dey now YemenJ say there is proof. Me haffi si dis proof.
I jus wish there was a anti gun lyrics agreement.
I wait for proof of these signatures...mi lose off a certain ...........if is really true
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Posted by: Stunna
on June 18, 2007 03:57 PM
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Boom Bang pon dat... Mi kno seh sizzla nah do that.. nobody knows what beenie is capable of... mi nah support that cuz dem soon try teach di younger generation seh it alrite fi be gay... fire bun dem and if sizzla really sign dat mi woulda bun him 2
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Posted by: more fire
on June 18, 2007 03:58 PM
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yow, fi real. Man and Man affi be more creative than to seh who and who fi dead.All a we sin.Mi a one serious dancehall fan from long before nuff a dem fassy yah who post all kind a foolishness.Hear whe mi seh if man fi dead. Then batty man fi dead, car jackers, pick pocket, The Dons, and the rass claat politician them too. as so mi seh
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Posted by: Shabaka
on June 18, 2007 05:03 PM
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Posted by: Devontae
on June 18, 2007 05:05 PM
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SEE HOW U ALL ARE, BEENIE DOES IT HE IS GAY, SIZZLA DOES YOU ALL DONT BELIEVE IT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT NON OF THEM SIGN THAT CRAP. SO PEOPLE STOP SAYIN STUFF WHEN U DONT HAVE PROOF
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Posted by: blackman
on June 18, 2007 06:20 PM
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big up killa mi boss because alliance nah sign nuh batty bwoy paper one love 'rodney'
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Posted by: Michelle
on June 18, 2007 07:06 PM
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As a Jamaican I know that Black gay people are the first to speak out about injustices and police brutality, in the Americas. I think it is stupid and problematic that these ignorant fools (SIZZLA and the under cover drag queens elephant and beenieman) who when they run out of lines when singing and DJing resort to homophobic comments. Most people who have any sense have simply stopped attending the stage shows and watching the DVDS. Lets face the facts gay people were here since the beginning of time whether we like it or not they are not going away, instead of focusing on fish man, do something positive for the community lets talk about self-hatred that is causing self-mutilation: bleaching, tattooing, what is the gender blending in the Passa, Passa DVD about? No to mention the selling of coke to fellow Jamaicans to wear Bling, Bling, and the shooting of children. There is nuff social crisis in Jamaica, not to mention unno soon starve cause the youth dem de pan street corner instead of farming and following the traditions of the elders. When dem decide to “bun people” they should think about the 400 yrs of slavery, the hatred that was unleashed on us and then think about the effects of continuing to project these negating concepts and inculcating hatred from generation to generation. The homophobia has simply gone too far, these artists know too much about gay culture begging the question that there is simply more than meets the eye. Not to mention they make it bad for other Jamaican males to travel abroad since the world now considers Jamaica the most homophobic country, nuff man ah go want to come a foreign, nuttin na go gwan, “fire da a dem tail ah no cool breeze.” Homophobia is a crime with severe punishment in North America and Europe. Dem fi leg go the almshouse and deal with some poor people issues.
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Posted by: blackz
on June 18, 2007 09:56 PM
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kolunji me bend beenie man a fish himself but sizzla me can't believe it the ras pologize
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Posted by: ramone
on June 18, 2007 10:04 PM
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boom bye bye inna fishboy head beenie a fish from long time but me can't believe that sizzla sign that the ras apologize
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Posted by: Gary Monsta
on June 18, 2007 10:07 PM
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K&*l fish man without apology, SIZZLA the Real Gangsta Warrior will not sign such an agreement. We are all here because of procreation Penis and Vagina there is noone in this WORLD from homosexuality and lesbianism. Rasta Man dont apologise to NO fish boy.
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Posted by: arsenal4evaneva
on June 18, 2007 10:30 PM
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yo da story ya shrouded in secrecy. Me expec anything from Beenie, but Sizzla and Capleton whe bun d fire pan dem fish de me cant believe say dem sell we culture. A fish man is a fish man, but as Jamaicans a we culure we hav freedom a speech too u z me RASTA MAN NA APOLOGIZE TO NO fish BWAY
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Posted by: Da Man
on June 18, 2007 10:39 PM
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Mek i say something. Thank god seh yardflex include sizzla name inna di controversy, or else di DOC woulda dead in ya.
Nex ting, Sean Paul nah bun fag. Dat mek him a fag?
I read an article that was looking at the careers of the fag burners. It highlighted Shabba, Buju and Sizzla among others. The interesting part of the article was when it stated while people supported the artistes when they were burning fags, the same people were saying, "him broke" or "him mash up" or "him done". Lets be honest folks, We cannot win the FAG war. I saw a story on CNN where the fags had a fag carnival in Brazil. Literally thousands of fags, and i mean THOUSANDS of fags lined the streets to celebrate their "fagitude".
My point is, this thing is bigga dan Beenie, Sizzla and whosoever else.Artistes have to pick their battles. A jus so di ting set. IF there is a contract, i'm sure it doesn't say Beenie and Sizzla have to like, interact with or socialise with fags.
last ting, Mi nah support homosexuality, but i believe artistes have to be smart in their careers.
Peace
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Posted by: Jahivah
on June 18, 2007 10:41 PM
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This is my contribution to the discussion.
Firs and foremost I born and grow to bun out fish man. I don't believe in violence against no man. I wont go out of my way to seek out and attack no fish man. But if a fish bwoy bring him fakery to me then is a different matter.
I can understand if Sizzla want to dennoucne the "violence against fish man ting". But to sign your name pon fish man document. NO RASTA. A st8 fire.
Is under the pressue we will see who is ras and Rasta. Fire fi a boy weh sign im name pon a fish man paper.
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Posted by: SuSuSuSu
on June 18, 2007 11:42 PM
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Both artists condemn #$!@&boy, both artists said they would never bow, Beenie got up on Irie FM and denied signing such a contract, they claim King (Capleton)"had yet to sign" when he never heard of such a contract, I think someone might be making this up. If it is true, then low Fisheenie we get betweeny Sizzla Kolongeeny. Ya see me? If you beleive in your religion, then stand by your faith! Not only does reggae bun so**om*te, but also murderers, heathen, rapists, child molesters, babylon, police boy, politician, petty tief, informer, girls who "don't wear there size", man who love video light, ugly gal inna video light, ugly man inna video light (wait, that can be funny sometimes), and many more.
Bless.
with beannie mon it wouldn't surprise me cuz him ah dreaddy but ras sizzla i can't believe it. i would have to hear from their mouths myself. but king shango would never sign such funny mon papers.
guidance
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Posted by: madhead
on June 19, 2007 02:00 AM
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RaStAmAn DoNt ApOlOGiZE To No BaTtYBwOy all who feel seh sizzla sign that go suck unuh mada mi seh suh
Beenie will do anyting fi money suh u done kno.
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Posted by: Doctor
on June 19, 2007 07:39 AM
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Michelle learn the history of Jamaicans before talking. Ignorance is not bliss.
Homosexuality goes against the cultures of most people of the world except Europeans, and the Europeans have been trying hard to get us to change our minds about that… just another form of colonialism. It is cultural imperialism. Africans and Jamaicans strongly disagree with homosexuality. It goes against our tradition, culture and history. In the African tradition a man’s wealth was measured by the number of children he had and a homosexual lifestyle was certainly not conducive to having a lot of children.
When reggae artists like Buju, Sizzla, Bounty Killa and others DJ about “killing” gays. They don’t mean it literally. If this was the case, gay people would be dieing every day in Jamaica. And that is just not the case. The lyrics are metaphors and allegories. For instance when Lady Saw says she is going to kill her man in bed, she did not mean it literally. Nor did Bob Marley really shoot the sheriff.
This attack on Reggae music comes from a complete misunderstanding of Jamaican culture and the Jamaican language. Jamaica will never be San Fraqncisco!
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with the artists signing that agreement because their music never excited violence against anyone anyway. Jamaicans do not adamantly disagree with the gay life style because of dancehall music. They disagree with the gay lifestyle because its their culture. The music simply reflects Jamaican culture. The church and the bible not dancehall artists incite violence against gays. Why aren’t the gays boycotting the church and the bible? I guess attacking a small country like Jamaica and its Artists is a much easier task.
And one social issue that DJ’s need to address is the growing problem of homosexuals molesting children. That problem is on the rise in Jamaica, as homosexual men continue to prowl the inner cities for their prey, young under privileged boys who are vulnerable to be lured into the homosexual lifestyle with promises of food, shelter and clothing.
And get your facts straight “homophobia” is not a crime in North America nor Europe. People are certainly allowed to strongly disagree with homosexuality. And the Christian Right who number in the millions certainly strongly disagree with homosexuality and they continue to literally preach against it every day.
And the other day Thatchell got a “box down” in Europe.
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Posted by: Doctor
on June 19, 2007 07:57 AM
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Artists like Buju and Sizzla strongly disagree with homosexuality because of their religious beliefs. They believe homosexuality is a sin. Most religions if not all agree on that.
I wonder why the media and the homosexuals don’t attack Matisyahu about his view on homosexuals and women. No Jamaican artist should ever discuss the homosexual issue again. The story is old. The issue is dead. They are still trying to crucify Buju for a song he did over 16 years ago. The homosexual lobby groups continue to attack Buju and Sizzla when they mostly perform socially conscious, uplifting and inspiring music. They are tyring to get publicity for their cause. These artists are the Voice of the poor down trodden poor masses of Jamaica. I am not amused by the homosexual lobbyist whose main concern is that people approve that life style when they are so many other pressing issues like poverty, crime, disease, self-hate etc… I am going to repeat, let’s move on to something NEW to discuss. This homosexual story is 10 years old. We will just have to agree to disagree with them. Me nuh inna nuttin with them. Argument DONE!
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Posted by: Imani
on June 19, 2007 08:05 AM
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I am not suprised about Beenie Man and Elephant Man. Beenie will do or say anything to make some money it seems. And now that Beennie has a "family" I am sure he is even under more pressure to make money... And regarding elephant man he is working with P Diddy the biggest No.2 man in the industry! So I am not surprised that he is "hugging" up with the happy men.
My advice to the real Artists put God first and do good music, your blessing MUST follow!!! Its not about selling music, its about making great music... follow your heart and your art!!
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Posted by: Nicky1
on June 19, 2007 08:09 AM
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I read it in the scottish daily mirror that they had signed an agreement because they have lost millions of GBP (£). There's nothing wrong anyways. All that mean is that Gay right activists will stop protesting to cancel their concert whenever they have concerts in the UK. Anyways, its also smart of them. Remember it is 100% legal to have same sex wedding here in the UK. Here homosexuals do not need to hide they exist normally, say in contrast to in j'ca. Therefore, such lyrics inciting violence to homosexuals would never be allowed.
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Posted by: topadtop
on June 19, 2007 08:24 AM
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Listen people . Dont let them pull the wool over your eyes . Dont let them trick you . This is not about Homosexuals, it is not about voilence against people . It is bigger than that . People , this about sensoring DANCEHALL MUSIC . This is about sensoring a movement ,this is about sensoring a nation , this about sensoring a talented culture that is gaining Prominence around the world . For a country that is predominantly poor and black to be producing a genre that is taking over the world is a threat to some people . 90 % of the world is against homosexuality , so how come they are not fighting other places like Iraq that chops off your head for being gay . Why the pressure on dancehall ? Like BOB MARLEY said " dont let them fool you or even try to school you " . IF A MAN DOESNT STAND FOR SOMETHING HE WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING . What are they going to say next that we cant talk about sexing the girls dem . Big man ting.
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Posted by: lion
on June 19, 2007 08:25 AM
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I don't think sizzla is gonna follow theses rules.
I was in his concert in france, which is a country where there is a lot of battyboys' associations who fight against "murder" music but kalonji don't hesitate to sing his tune "no apologize". So we will see how it goes ...
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Posted by: Bishop Ranking
on June 19, 2007 08:56 AM
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LAWD HAVE MERCY!!! If Beenie man actually did it, I would not be surprised, but mi nah believe seh Kalongi fit sign batty bwoy paper. Mi also trust the Mighty Bounty Killer who will always be the Mighty Batty Killer. I'm outa here
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Posted by: Boom Bang
on June 19, 2007 09:19 AM
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Mi think the artiste dem wah a bun batty man a do the rite ting... If them never did a bun out dem bwaoy deh nuff more ppl ina jamaica woulda turn fag cuz dem wouldn't kno seh it wrong... If a never because a baby cham mi wouldnt even kno seh the bible did seh dem bwoy deh should be put to death... levicticus 20 verse 13.. anyway di bible seh other kinda a ppl fi dead to for whoever feel seh dem can counteract mi.. mi kno mi bible.. How did ppl dem weh a back di gay dem woulda feel if dem son turn gay.. mi sure nuff a ooonuh woulda shame so laow di artiste dem mek dem bun dem bwoy deh as much... even though it coulda stop them from be billionaire dem still rich and money still a mek a yard... we haffi sing bout wah wi believe ina.. a free speech
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Posted by: shabaka
on June 19, 2007 12:26 PM
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Michelle is living in some kind of a dream world cuz all dem ting she mention get bun too.
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Posted by: steve
on June 19, 2007 12:44 PM
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YO ALL A UNU TAP UNU FKRY YARDFLEX IS A BIAS WEBSITE
BIAS JUST RECENTLY TO.. ANYHOW ALL A UNU WEH SAY UNU HAVE PROOF SAY ARTIST SIGN PAPER TO STOP TALK ABOUT GAYS UNU CRACK HERE IS WHY.. SIZZLA AND BEENIE COME FROM JA IF DEM DO DAT AND PEOPLE KNOW SAY DEM WANNA STOP BURN GAYS DEN THEY THEMSELVES LOOK AS IF THEY ARE ADVOCATING GAY RIGHTS.. IF THEY DID INFACT SIGN A CONTRACT I BELIEVE IT WAS A STOP MAKING NUFF KILLING TUNES AND TRY MORE CULTURE SONG
MI NUH LIKE FISH BOYS OR GALS MI BURN FIRE FI DAT
BUT TO SAY GO KILL SOMEBODY THATS ANOTHER STORY
IF UNU WAAAH SOMETHING FI KILLL.. KILLL BADMIND,KILLL HUNGER,KILLL THE POLITICIANS WEH SELL UNU OUT,KILL OUT THE SO CALLED AREA DONS WE A TEK DI PEOPLE DEM FI FOOOOL AND MOST OF ALLL KILL OUT UNU DUTTY AND GRUDGEFUL WAYS.. A LIFE MI SAY ALL GAY PEOPLE KEEP UNU SELF TO UNU SELF WE NUH WAAA SEEE UNU.
DONE DI FROCKRY MI SAY!!
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Posted by: Twister
on June 19, 2007 01:50 PM
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lots of people don't know that outside of jamaica it is an offence to even say a word to dem batty boy yah. you all see what happend to Shabba and a dem put a hold pon buju too, the DJs can be more creative and not sign it straight foward like that.Sean Paul,Ziggi and Damian Marley naw out and out bun dem but is not like dem support them. Jamaican people wise up the music must go on a the artiest pockets a burn not ours
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Posted by: SuSuSuSu
on June 19, 2007 02:51 PM
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Exclusive!!!! I just heard from a VERY reliable source close to Capleton that King NEVER heard of or signed any kind of funnyboy contract. Gay rights groups fabricated this which means they probably made up Sizzla, and mabye even Beenie.
I will say it again, Capleton has NOT nor will NOT sign any battyman paper.
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Posted by: christoff
on June 19, 2007 03:11 PM
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being a die hearted beenie man it the statement is true then that would be a great move from him, sizzla and ele. dem batty boy ya ave power and money. di fag dem run the movie, fashion and music industry etc. si sean and shaggy deh
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Posted by: lulu
on June 19, 2007 03:52 PM
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Well put Michelle. It's true, most of the dancehall artist ah chat pure stupiness- me stop support that long- time ago, me save the money now me a buy land.
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Posted by: shelly
on June 19, 2007 03:55 PM
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These artists have come to realize that the gays are an organized force to be reckoned with. They will show up at your concert hall and protest until you are run out of town.. they will boycott everything that has your name attached. They have friends in high places that will make this happen...they will pressure you until you sign what ever the hell they want...
If an artist plan on staying in Jamaica then you don't have to sign... if you plan on going on the international stage, then you have no choice but to sign... All this licking out gainst gays only made them stronger and more powerful, and we only have these same artists to blame for that... every chance they get they are bringing attention to them... if a gay molest someone in your family or make advances to you, then I don't think the law would disagree with you defending yourself or your loved one. But to come on stage and make claims just to get the crowd in a frenzy is pointless and it is only your career that is at stake...
The crowd will just go home and back to whatever it is that they do.
I know a lot of you on this site know gay people.. you either work with them, live near them... especially in NYC, you can't avoid them... but I dare you to step to one of them and see what happens to you! They will hunt you down and make you pay for your crime..
It is best to leave people business and mind your own. A lot you are not at the pinnacle of whatever it is you want to do, and spending time attacking gays is only going to keep you one step farther from achieving your goal!
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Posted by: Da Man
on June 19, 2007 09:59 PM
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Clap clap clap. Shelly well said. People do you honestly think the DJs can win di fish war? Be clear, its not about the artistes or the music. Its about acceptance. Self acceptance. I honestly do not believe that there is one fag in the world that is 100% comfortable being a fish. So all this censoring and advocacy is only a prop to make fishes feel better about their nasty lives. People IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. So they can ban and protest all they want. They, (the fishes) will never have inner peace. Why? Because they know that their lifestyle goes against all laws of nature, so they believe by forcing people to accept them, they in turn will accept themselves. WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Plus it doesn't matter if the artistes sign a contract. A contract cannot change what a man feels inside. Sign, make more money, get nuff gyal, breed some a dem and mek di fish dem see what they can never achieve. PROCREATION. That's enuff to burn dem out. In the end, all a fish is doing is living to die, because their heritage ends when they do. FISHES keep hoping. Your lifesyle will inevitably lead to ur extinction.. Just like dinosaurs...
PEACE
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Posted by: pj
on June 19, 2007 10:13 PM
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well if its true it show maturity on the part of the entertainers. It's not even about what you think about homosexuality, its just about what's good or bad for the music. Singing the same old tired lines about battyman just to get a cheap forward is bad for the music.
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Posted by: portmore
on June 19, 2007 11:27 PM
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Bun out dem propaganda ting yah. Free speech a free speech...any artist weh sign dat naah get a show tickit or a albumn sale from me. Bullit dem batty bwoy deh...Elephant man a mek money run him head...but a bullit fi him to....
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Posted by: Imani
on June 20, 2007 07:07 AM
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topadtop WELL SAID.... Me agree with you 150%
Shelly, please stop telling lies... which artists atack gays?? Which artist song incite violence against gays? Where are the facts? Where is the proof? Where is the evidence?
Is it the music that caused people to disagree with homeosexuality?
Then why in most of the world, people disagree with homosexuality?
People wake up we can not let a small minority rule us any more... slavery days and colonial days are over. Like Mr. Bob Marley said, emancipate yourself from mental slavery...
I wonder what the great Bob thought about gays? As a devout Rastafarian, I am sure that he thought it was a SIN!
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Posted by: Drew
on June 20, 2007 11:49 AM
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Doctor and Topadtop big up ounu self ounu comment sell all di time.. Big Man Ting..
Nubody nuh seh fi war wid fish.... Jeeez... infact mi tink a that dem want but all man a seh,, its been apart of the culture to speak against fish so why change??? Mi not even a go get into nuh much long speech an di lesson cauz people just naah get it dem more caught up into money and assimilation..
Alliance...
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Posted by: Smoko
on June 20, 2007 12:11 PM
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Unu c Mi ere.... Mi nuh bizz ah who sign or who n sign but mi nah mix and blend blend wit gay...from unu knw unu nah straight... unu affi stay far from ppl who ah straight and live righteous.... cau dis f#*kin gay ting is gettin outa hand seen!!! & Mi Nuh Underfuckinstand dat cau the bible says it cleary Lev chp 20 vs 13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." So if d most high wants dem to dead i dont c y we shuddnt f*$kin kill dem or murder dem...Mi Say Dat wit no apology...fuk all those gay rites groups who protest against antigay people..cau we knw we straight... Ah Dat Me Sey And Ah Dat Mi Mean...!!!
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Posted by: Galliwasp
on June 20, 2007 01:21 PM
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Greetings Lords of Yardflex and all dancehall pplz.
Check this website out that has links to scanned/photocopied documents of the Reggae Compassionate Act agreements signed by
Beenie Man, Capleton and Sizzler.
http://www.petertatchell.net/
We should have a Dancehall Compassionate Act for tolerance of other Dancehall artistes.
Love and Thanks,
Galliwasp
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Posted by: Drew
on June 20, 2007 02:34 PM
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GUESS WAT MI COWORKER JUST TELL MI??
SHI SEH YOUNG PEOPLE A GO START THINK SEH ITS AN OK CHOICE TO BECOME GAY...
SO PEOPLE WID YOUNG SON BETTA STOP AGREE WID CONTRACT BECAUZ WITH SILENCE COMES CONSENT
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Posted by: Stacey
on June 20, 2007 04:02 PM
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Doctor,
I agree with you 100 %!!!! Teach it to people!!
Argument DONE! New topic!
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Posted by: topadtop
on June 20, 2007 04:32 PM
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Drew, respect for the acknowledgement , at least some of us wont be led like lambs to the slaughter . People , some Man a seh that if you cant win the battle that mean you shouldnt fight the war . I dont believe that . Win or lose you should fight for what you believe in . If PAUL BOGLE , NANNY AND SAM SHARP never faught for what the believed, where would Jamaicans be today ? Furthermore , the reason why, to some people, it seems like the gays have the loudest voices, is because straight people are not raising their own voices . Some people are just content to let things go along . Gays are out numbered right around the world, even in the animal kingdom but some people are just turning a blind eye . As for me , i am not going out there to kill anyone but i will never support a gay life style . By the way the pen is mightier that the sword so there are different ways to fight , for example, dont bow down to gays and sign their contract . Use that to send a message to them . Big man ting .
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Posted by: monsta minds
on June 20, 2007 10:10 PM
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true word eye wata full up mi eye
i herd the story bout 3 weeks now
i even found a copy of sizzla's con-tract
http://www.soulrebels.org/dancehall/m_compassionate_sizzla.jpg
the man dem sell out
fi money star
how the hell b.tt.y man wan come set rules an regulation in dancehall muzic
is a batty man rught the contract
its to protect batty man an give them rights
BUN DEM
BUN DEM DUN DEM
COME LOCK MI UP NUH
RASTA MAN DONT APOLOGIZE TO NO BATTY BOY
NO COMPASION RIGHT ERE
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Posted by: monsta_minds
on June 20, 2007 10:27 PM
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see the proof deh sizzla sing di ting
beenie wi nuh need nuh proof fi him
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Posted by: Da Man
on June 20, 2007 10:45 PM
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People what is the underlying dominant factor that determines your character? Your UPBRINGING. Strong family family values will almost always lead to strong individuals. No DJ, fag, Prime Minister, politician, policeman or whosoever cyaa influence my yout. If kids think its ok to be a fag, then parents have failed.
All i'm saying, if the DJs sign, mi nah kill dem.
If they don't sign, mi naw kill dem neither.
Peace
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Posted by: andrew
on June 21, 2007 01:23 AM
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be honest ppl look as the signature wa the fire man cant spell is own name. check beenie man hande writing and sizzla thats not there signature
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Posted by: Doctor
on June 21, 2007 07:34 AM
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Monsta, Drew, topastop,
I just read that Reggae Compassion ACT, They are trying to water down Reggae music to be some hippie, tree hugging, smiling, shuffling, bowing down type of music. It is not that. It was never that. Not when the masses of people in Jamiaca are suffering. Reggae represents that. There will be war as long as there is poverty, racism, unjust laws, economic colonialism, etc...
Reggae Artists need to all get together and PROTEST... they need to STRIKE and not perform in those countries that are trying to prevent them from expressing their opinion... they need to get together as a GROUP and start holding shows here in JAMAICA and start charging these promoters a lot of money... too many times Artists are giving away their talent... if the artist stand together and boycott these shows in the UK and the US and wherever, I wonder what will happen? That REGGAE COMPASSION ACT was a load of CRAP!
"Homophobia" does not nearly compare... is not even in the same category as the racisn... or racial terrorism that Black people have to live under in teh US,and Europe where skin heads hund foreighners at night... Black people can not jump in the closet and jump out or change their skin like gays who get saved and change their sexual preference
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Posted by: Doctor
on June 21, 2007 08:38 AM
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After reading the document and a recent article in the newspaper, I have changed my mind... they SHOULD NOT sign! The articles should have simply united against the gays. United we STAND and divided we fall.
The gays are simply looking for publicity for their cause. The Reggae Compassion ACT is a piece of propaganda. And it is based on a false premise. Peter Tatchell stated that Dancehall Artists incite the murder of lesbian and gays. Which ones? When? Where? How? Has there ever been an incident where because of what a Reggae artist said, someone went out and killed a gay person?
It is just a way for them to get Reggae artists from criticizing them. Pretty soon "child molesters and informers" will start organizing and protesting concerts too... RIDICULOUS!
Tatchell also said that he will call off the campaign, if the Artists avoid homophobic words and lyrics. What does he mean by “homophobic”? So an Artist could not say to a crowd that homosexuality was wrong and a sin according to his religion. Foolishness!!
People we need to stand up and fight this “whitemail”!! Reggae fans in the UK and in the US need to stand up to this harassment.
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Posted by: Drew
on June 21, 2007 08:48 AM
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Wen a parent think its ok to have dutty low life nasty fish people tell decent people how fi sing, talk ect. That Parent is already a Failure they just dont know it yet...
@Topadtop mi Glad yuh let dem know seh gays are out numbered by straight people if that wasn't the case then dem wouldn't need fi come out a closet... Mi dont know how dem reach in deh to begin with.. Speaking of voilence against gay,, in Jamaica artist only sing bout it let dem try that sh!t some place in Africa..
People different but if a one choose to be a fish then artist and every body else should speak against it and that the lease because such a person dont even deserve to live because dem fcuking with creation..
Bounty did seh him believe him eyes.. Cant believe seh rasta man a tun pu&&yhole..
Alliance..
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Posted by: gtyouths production
on June 21, 2007 02:14 PM
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beenie and sizzla is my dj and i can speak for all guyanese, dem 2 djs are the best at what they do (dancehall and culture). but how long are they gonna sing about the same thing, kill fishy bowy, bun fishy bowy over and over. we don know that non of our caribbean artise like fishy bowy from long and stop singing about it does not change anythng and besides there's more sika tings to worry bout. so who don't like beenie and sizzla doing what the think is best for the reggae music. tek a straw and you know what to do with it.
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Posted by: topadtop
on June 21, 2007 03:50 PM
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Yes , mi agree that your upbringing in a strong factor in what you become in life but what about the other factors ? let mi give a few .( 1 )Peer Pressure . (2)Poverty . (3) The Media , your kids watch tv and listen to the radio alot more than you realise and that help shape their thinking > (4)Idolism . That is just a few examples, so dont assume that if you preach to them everyday to do right then every thing will be fine, remember seh the devil a do fi him work too.
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Posted by: PIJIN
on June 21, 2007 05:11 PM
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People, hear dis yannow..... mi choose fi nuh comment until now still caas mi did ah lissen out fi follow up comments fram di aatis dem.... up tuh di time mi nuh hear nuttin fram none ah dem. To mi dat simple meen seh dem eida sign di agreement an fraid fi own up tuh it ar dem decide seh dem guh sign it at a layta date...... mek wi jus wait an si wha di laytis pon dah vibes yah still. On ah personal note......di bredda wha name Wade Cameron..... mi canvince yannow seh dah bwoy deh ah fag fi reel..... im nuh strait...... ah lang time mi deh lag on tuh Yardflex an base pon di comments wha dah bredda yah deh utta is enuff fi mi draw dah caclushan deh.... enny baddy else agree??..... SOUN IT!!!!. ONENESS.
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Posted by: Doctor
on June 22, 2007 07:29 AM
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THEY SHOULD NOT SIGN! We must UNITE against these people who are spreading this GAY agenda. We must UNITE and fight this PROPAGANDA. We must stand up for what we believe in!! We need to start boycotting GAYS when they come to our countries! No COMPROMISE!! We need to stand up for our culture our history, our LEGACY!
UNITE and FIGHT!!
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Posted by: Rick
on June 22, 2007 08:49 AM
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I can't imagine anyone would embrace and launder so much hate under the cover of "culture" and "cultural preservation".
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Posted by: Keisha
on June 22, 2007 04:27 PM
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you don't have to support gays or their lifestyle, but think: don't we have more important things to worry about than who's sleeping with whom? if they consent among themselves, leave them to God's judgment. when there's no consent it's rape and that's a different story altogether. we need to look at the big picture. Black people AROUND THE GLOBE are at a disadvantage politically and economically. many of us -- in darfur, haiti, even our own Jamaica -- are outright suffering. there are too many gun crimes and not enough education nor common sense. don't forget they used the Bible to support slavery, too. who cares if gays cant procreate? leave them let them die out. think survival of the FITTEST and the SMARTEST. we should not compromise our values but let's not waste all of our energy on denouncing gays because that is TUNNEL VISION and most rational people will agree that we have more important issues that should take precedence.
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Posted by: gideonprincess
on June 22, 2007 05:12 PM
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"badman dont apologize to no fish boi....if you diss king sellasie I me gun shot you boi" ah cyah believe sizzla ah contradict him own self...
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Posted by: Da Man
on June 23, 2007 01:29 AM
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I think a more worthy cause for the DJs would be to advocate the killing of gay adoption laws. That is where the real tragedy lies. Instead of fighting a lost cause, its better if they direct there energies towards getting all gay adoptions and gay adoption laws overturned. A fish (whether male and female) must realize that they cannot have it both ways. Now that is winnable war. An artiste could not be censored for voicing a disagreement with such laws.
Just something to think about..
Peace
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Posted by: QTEEPYE
on June 23, 2007 11:18 AM
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IT'S FUNNY JAMAICA WANT'S TO BE SO FRIGGIN MUCH LIKE THE STATES BUT IS NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT WHAT THE STATES IS OFFERING, THERE'S GAY PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS FRIGGIN WORLD DEAL WITH IT, IF JAMAICANS INVEST THIS MUCH TIME IN DEALING WITH THERE LIVES MAYBE IT WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE, IT HURT ME WHEN I RETURN TO MY HOMELAND AND TO SEE THAT THERE ARE PLACES THERE THAT ONLY ACCEPT US DOLLARS, WHAT THE FRIG YOU ALL THINK IS OVER IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD, IT'S NO BETTER, IT'S THE SAME SHIT ALL OVER, LEAVE THE PEOPLE THEM AND LET THEM LIVE THERE LIVES IN PEACE, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL ANSWER TO GOD, WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN SINS AND LEAVE OTHERS ALONE. THEY BLEED AND FEEL PAIN JUST LIKE THE REST OF US, THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO, IT'S FUNNY HOW PEOPLE WILL ACCEPT TWO GIRLS BUT NOT TO MAN GOES TO SHOW HOW IGNORANT YOU ALL ARE, SO FRIGGIN IGNORANT THAT MONTEGO BAY IS BEING CALLED GALTEGO BAY, AND THE NUMBER 2 IS WHATEVER YOU ALL CALL IT, BUT NOT WHAT IT IS, IF JAMAICANS WOULD JUST GIVE THESE PEOPLE A CHANCE YOU WOULD BE SURPRISE HOW ,MANY GAYS ARE IN JAMAICA MAYBE EVEN SOME OF YOU ALL DAUGHTERS, SONS, MOTHERS, FATHERS, AND MAYBE YOUR BESTFRIEND,TRUST ME,GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
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Posted by: Tony
on June 25, 2007 07:47 AM
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Unite and Fight!!! Peter Tatchell is a racist why is he picking on Reggae Artists? Are they the only ones that critique gays? Why not fight the television stations that perpetuate negative stereotyopes and teh rock groups. Peter Tatchell needs to get a life and stop trying to make a name for himself of of Reggae Music. We need to stand up for our principles.
WHO JAH BLESS no man can curse!!!
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Posted by: Bishop Ranking
on June 26, 2007 03:21 AM
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the bible says it cleary Lev chp 20 vs 13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
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Posted by: dammie
on July 5, 2007 04:02 AM
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i absolutely can't believe that SIZZLA signed those papers! ! ! I'm a Nigerian, and i live in US, and i been a folower of d dancehall ever since i kuld rememba. Rasta man don appologise to mo fishy boyy . . . Sizzla will contradict himself by signin no paper. wat dem pple is tryn to do is pressure the rest of the world into agreeing wit them, and little by little, with things like this, we give in. well, wether paper is signed or not, we will not cease from burn em up in Nigeria ! ! !
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Posted by: ja_most_wanted
on July 6, 2007 01:55 PM
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fi 1 sizzla no sign no contract and fi di 2 fisheenie dat no suppose to even surprise u all anyway mi born and grow inna ja fish ting against the law even ban according to the bible mi think it's sick and nasty mi cant tek dem mi say bullet fi dem to yes dem powerful yes dem run certain things but if something wrong or bad mi not repeat not working, supporting or associate my self with dem cant believe u ppl who a diss kolonji and to who a say we fi work with dem f**ck dat yes we will see and no see dem some times but we no fi sign no contract with dem eat with dem do ntn at all with dem bullet bullet bullet God na sleep
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Posted by: Fan4life
on July 10, 2007 03:43 PM
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It's a no winning situation that I totally disagree with still.
But, you soon see "first faggot in a de White House" instead of "first lady".
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Posted by: Me
on July 10, 2007 08:41 PM
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Did you read the part in the bible where lot placed his meat in his daughters...a fascinating thing this Bible. As a matter of fact, i enjoy how jamaicans lean on the Bible when it is most convenient to them ;heaven will be a spectacular thing in the end. Jamaicans have their hatred, they should keep their hatred confined in their country, and not go about spreading their hatred all around the world and expect that everyone will think kindly of them. You don't like gays, who are accepted in so many places in the world, don't go there and try to force something down someone's throat, and we won't come to your country!!! It's as simple as that. Not everyone believes in the Bible, and Christ was never into forcing anyone to do anything...yet, you ppl see it as a need to tear down someone else to feel superior and to enter your graves in peace...heaven as i said, will be filled with surprises. Only god knows the battles any human has gone through to judge and tear his creation down.
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Posted by: Doctor
on July 12, 2007 03:47 PM
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Me,
It's the homosexuals who are trying to tear the artists down... they have launched a personal attack on the artists... the artists were simply expressing their personal beliefs that homosexual relations are immoral... it has very little to do with the bible... before the bible, homosexuality was againt Africans traditions, culture and world view... and as we now know African were around Europeans left the Caucus mountains...
And there are few places where homosexuality is accepted... mainly Europe and America...
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Posted by: Jigga-man
on July 14, 2008 04:21 AM
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Me tell u say judgement day ago come hear dis now.....fire pon di ring leaders of dis so kald Stop Murder Musik Campaign seen. Even if dem Sign so wah ..... mi to all dem chichi dis musik wase;nt meant fih yah thats why we rasta keep dih fire burning pun yah wicked style n' pattan chuck we ah go chuck yah.....mi no dat jah neva created Adam n' Steve so watch your self funny bwoy
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Posted by: Outsider...
on August 10, 2008 01:09 PM
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Man Instead of being worried about who signed what as a business move, you should be concerned with what this guy "waynebesen.com" is insiting people to do to Jamaica... I quote "There is no doubt that with a concerted effort, Jamaica could be brought to its knees."..."The goal should be to strangle Jamaica's economy and force the island to change or suffer severe consequences."
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