any body who bring wa new artist into the scene and him/she fi grow them kar expect him fi stay the same especially when him really outstanding with them lyrics. It guh cum wa point wey them out grow su7ch stage and tend fi seek wa new challenge. Not becuz bounty buss kartel mean say him guh do everything killa say and stick by him side NO NO him guh guh get better and therefore he must understand say look me need fi see the world so thamks for what u have dun but me kar stay with u no longer str8. cum like matteron went solo from king addies

Tsk, suh life guh... But some man dat betray other man, behave like a likkle girl... run guh road guh chat all kinda nonsense.. ANYWAY UNU HEAR D FEW NEW BUSY SIGNAL DEM! Dem bad nuh r**ss! Him giving it ID an Kartel. ID NEW MIXTAPE, MI HAVE IT... 33 TRACKS.

a student should be able to graduate if he pays his dues. kartel deserves his graduation, as a matter of fact he did graduate. but the issue between killa and kartel is not about graduation, is about disrespecting the school u got ure degree, or in the case of kartel masters.

bounty cannot hold kartel n scatta cannot hold aidonia bcuz da lyrics hard...

too much a this b**bo cl**t foolishness we need some fresh artistes enough is enough even dance hall start get boring new talent

It's all a plot to eradicate each other so they can keep the rich and the poor seperated. The most important thing its a plot so black people can't come together for the common good. Don't take part in the corrupted bullshit that is going on in the world. Make peace and unite trust me then everything will fall in prospective.

One love to all

Its all good when a son wants to move out and embark on is own, but when u move out and start roll with the enemy then something is definately wrong. I respect kartell and i'm a big fan of the warlord ever since i heard him work on top of father binns roof greenwich farm when he was driving a blue charde him just a bust ever since that him batter beenie kick him like a ball lock him turn him on back and beenie man haven't forgotten that he's always trying to get back at killa a use him use kartell against killa even the angel beenie his not sincere. he will go to any extent to see killa fall, listen to him as he was leave the stage at sting (bounty you lose man) and him and killa never clash. U can understand beenie still competition his like that u've been up against this man all your life and can't get the better of him it must be a kick in the teeth still.

That's betta Mr Cunningham .... VERY GOOD ARTICLE !!

ok........so......what is yardflex stirring up again.after wi done say wi tirad a dem kinda articles.
I pray for peace amongst these artistes cause they SHOULD have the message that the world listen to and the children gravitate to.

Yeah Yeah

Betrayal his a hell of a ting...dont throw roun dat word loosely because not all of the examples u have used is actual betrayal... i agree wit most of de article still

Boom Bang
Alliance

Well as the Prophet Capleton once sang in one of his past hit tunes "Music is a mission not a competition nuff man ah use de music ah cause confusion!" You see why they call him the prophet? A years now he said that and look at what is going on in the business? Many of these artistes need to realize that they are the " Role models of the future generation, the ones that they look up to. sometimes they may even have more influence than parents, teachers, preachers and even their friends. so as Tony Rebel said in a song " if you find yourself in the position of influence everytime you use it ,use your conscience for the seed that you so it is no accident and none of you will escape the judgement." So all dancehall artiste take heed, take your responsibility seriously. you will have children too many of you and I am sure you would want to live to see them and you would want to know you have a positive reputation preceeding you. Think about it, all the energies you guys put into the war thing, try to build some positive lyrics to uplift the youths and see how you will change the way the youths think and act and subsequently change the whole community and the universe on a whole. Just a meditation!!

so if beenie respect him elders why him Diss king yEllow and BoB

dis ting skunt guh heat up b4 it cold dung........hope fully blood na guh spill

Yow, we need some new talent fi real, 14 yrs bounty and Beenie a war. Same old Situation, if I am in any profession for 14 years and I can't elevate, every year is the same bullshit, I would retire.
Reggae has fallen from being a world renown music to a gimmick, and none of these artist is selling jack!!! People don't let dem fool you, go online and do your research. We need to boycott their shows and let them know we need some music with substance; something edifing and uplifting.
Even Reggae thong... or reggea brief is making a lot more money in the business. Reggae music have no presentation.
So anybody don't like the truth holla at me

I will challenge you with facts, not opinion.
Black people B*mbo cloth wise up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hits has a point...

Peace inna Dancehall.

A wha deez people a chat bout? A so de dancehall run! Some bwoy no listen soun clash business, dancehall is a competition, big man a big man, bwoy a bwoy, all who nuh know, fe go wey!

Ey yo come off a di long talkin, me nuh ave time fe read all a yuh bl**dclat speech!

Hmmm mi nuh kno bout bleach but kartel skin look brown and pretty inna da picta deh... oh my mi artist might ugly but im smile surely bright!

this betrayal thing is part of the dancehall history.but this so called entertainers are only putting divisions between the masses and having promising artistes who want 2 buss thinking twice.these guys should grow up.peace and love from st.lucia.

This issue goes depper than music.it started in africa when we sell our own black brothers and sisters for some little use less trinkets.
and today the saga continues.

It all comes down to one's perception of gratitude. If one receives a favor from another individual, does that favor put one in debt to that individual forever? Or after one receives the favor and expresses a genuine heartfelt thank you, does the "debt" end there. This whole idea of betrayal comes about due to the fact that most people give to get.If something is given, unless explicitly stated, that gift should be without conditions or undertones.

PEACE

Listen,
If a artiste is good then its not for the "father" to say go on your own but the crowd support thats gonna determine the future of the artiste. Yes a man mus' pay him dues but for how long. At some point an artiste is going to want to test the waters to see how well he can do on his own without the endorsement of the man who bus' him. However it must be done in a way that communicates respect and gratitude to the man who help him out. Even when Papa San get big him neva dis up Sassafras who bus him at that time. Always talk bbout how Sassafras bus him.

Listen,
If a artiste is good then its not for the "father" to say go on your own but the crowd support thats gonna determine the future of the artiste. Yes a man mus' pay him dues but for how long. At some point an artiste is going to want to test the waters to see how well he can do on his own without the endorsement of the man who bus' him. However it must be done in a way that communicates respect and gratitude to the man who help him out. Even when Papa San get big him neva dis up Sassafras who bus him at that time. Always talk bbout how Sassafras bus him.

ON the BAD DOG RIDDIM is buju talkin about killa?(cracy talk) or what.. because if he is talkin about killa. bullit are go burn him skin.. alliance or nothing..bullit

Ah bwoy.... here we go again!!!!

bottom line KARTEL diss BOUNTY and from u diss the hands that feed u should suffer .and how fi u gone par with ba**ym**n BEENIE MAN ,KARTEL fi go wey cause him a coward to ,him a nuh badman him lyrics only touch and hard

the problem is when a big man buss
a yout dem wah own him and benefit
something afta him.yu cant seh aidonia
betrayed skatta cau him refuse to sign
him contract.we dont know what were the
contents of the contract,but i think donia
wasnt satisfied wid it.same as kartel,killa
did a gwaan like him a kartel real daddy.
music is bussiness suh i don't see why one
would try run anotha man's business.
check how far spragga and assassin come from,
spragga benz neva try owning assassin.spragga
treat assassin as him fren not as his so called
son ting.once yu call yoself fatha yu guh try
control di youth dem.

Me Love write dis website yo! Basically Jamaican people no fi turn against each otha but people get to a certain stage and fell sey dem ah di best, dem head get gone, and dem wan try fi run tings. So some people fi get bullet!! But Bount killa cyant beat VYBZ KARTEL and me no hear scatta but me hear Aidonia so if dem battle me feel dat Aidodon ah go win. You no fi give yah fren dem orda if you have respect fi dem. Bounty really fi tink twice cuz him fans and stuff but VYBZ!!!!! Him a di best and no bl**dclot body cyan tek him crown!!!! Ah foolish ting why dis war yah start but dem one deh who ah chat bad bout Vybz & Aidonia ah go look real dumb founded and dem nah go want fi look di public ina dem eye again. BLESSED TO DA BEST INA JAMAICA and dat no go 4 everybody.

Nhuuhhhh....am not sure if Jamaicans will allow me to say some-ting..but am really concerned..am into dancehall, writing lyrics and studying riddims to bring d original form of dancehall into d Gambia, but my brothers our there should know dat dis means laughter to us by any group of plp against black prosperity...."UNNO CANT PREACH DI PEACE AND LEAD DI WAR MI BREDDA" pls stop all di war(lyrical or physical) and do it 4 di cultural wealth of Jamaica and di Gambian luv 4 dancehall( di smiling coast of Africa)....PLZ !!! peace out...

i feel as if this is jus a cycle, and if it does not stop dancehall is gonna die jus like hip-hop. we need to stop war and focus on geting our music on the mainstream

No disrespect but Capleton is a not a prophet. He's an entertainer like everyone else. And that statement "Music is a mission not a competition" is a blatant lie. Music all about competition. All of these artists had to compete to "buss" into the Reggae and Dancehall industry. They all have to compete to "stay" in it or somebody else will take their spot. Its the same for Hip Hop or any other popular music genre. Music is a business at the end of the day never forget that. Artists don't need to write just positive lyrics only...they need to balance their lyrics and sing/dj about new topics.We've been hearing the same ole topics for almost 15+ years thats what the real problem is in dancehall and reggae. How many songs have we heard about "Selassie"? How many songs have we heard about "war"? How many songs have we heard about "pum pum"? How many songs have we heard about "ganja"? Its time for Reggae and Dancehall to have a renaissance.

"How many songs have we heard about "Selassie"?"

stop whateva but neva stop praise King of Kings.

I can't respect anyman,artist or for a matter of fact anyone that was given a chance to eat food and then turn yuh back pan di man that open the doors fi yuh..BULLET FI YUH.

Alliance Fi Life

Many of you have some good points, however, I agree with andre and Bloodrun.

Hip-hop died because of the lack of originality, and its inability to move past its current state. In other words, Hip-Hop is no longer evolving. The same can be said for Dancehall (I personally do not say the same thing for reggae. Reggae (in my opinion), is in itself is a seperate entity. Dancehall is, as one artiste said, the "rebellious child of reggae". As Rap is to Hip-Hop.)

Back in the days, artist would clash, however they did it lyrically, and without no type of physical hostilities towards each other. Now, its has become somewhat of a normalcy for an artiste to bring his/her personal life into there music, or for another artist to publicly send death threats to, and/or make attempts on another artist (or person) life becauce of some private disagreement.

Dancehall has reach a state that can make or break the genre: Does it continue to fall into the abyss of hate, or does it move itself to higher level?

The continueous back-stabbing, fighting and lack of real unity in Dancehall will only expediate its destrution.
However, If the artist themselves and the fans can push for a true United Front, and move away from these destructive lyrics of war and killing, then Dancehall can enter into a true Renaissance.

Dancehall needs to evolve to a higher plane of consciousness...

well the industry is set on competition its wat sells artist against artist, the biger djs who had lend a helping hand must by now realised that things are set jus like nature itself. even though u r part of something theres gonna be a time when growth is paramount and so cal for separation. it only will get a way wen one dj a dis another knowing that the dj was the help and visi versa. to me still its a matter of maturity between the man them cause on a wider scale it cost a life more time.

bounty's mistake is to think that he can be kartel's boss. kartel is too big to have a boss.

on the other hand joining beenie man's camp is betrayal.

so me like fu see d man deal with d thing,good fu hear say bounty and kartel link back and beenie have respect fu d elders.things should be better now.

As how mi see it if a bigger artist give a new comer a helping hand that's good. but don't believe and think that the new comer constantly owe you something. Once they learn what they need to better themselves they going to go. And not because you give them a hand they should always be there to kiss yur ass. They goin to spread there wings some day,and they should give you credit for what you have done for them,but at the same time they don't owe you sh*t.

As for bounty and kartel that was fuck-up,kartel straight out diss killa,thats a diffrent case all by itself.

i see no reference or inference to Killa in buju's crazy talk on the bad dog riddim.
On another tip bounty has signed a deal with Vp to release his and an Alliance album. We eagerly await..

gc wa u a talk bout.gc u go in a work place and start work some money u no feel se the boss wa give d work no soppose to act like the boss, i get u him and u de on the same level u fool. u chat too much.put ur self in that position and then u can talk. if u do them tings de fi a man and im come dis u like that wat wud u do. shelly wat u mean se im no owe killa notting.answer this shelly? u him owe the music sumting but no owe killa notting. u stupid f**k.

Its not a secret that i'm all about the Alliance, but as much as I love and respect the killa I love the industry even more.I know that its time for them to stop the f@*@ry and focust on the music.When I see artist like Sean Paul making waves,it makes you think because he is not half as good as even Assaian, not to mention the three 'B' Bounty,Bennie,Buju.

yow wa a goan

starchild u speaking the truth i love that people read starchild comment we need proper presentation for dancehall reggae new talent

good point star child....whe yu seh a really tru, cyaan disagree wid it

We gone back to this place againnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

gassa i sh know wa some of yal saying a,buh u see beenie, da man is a hater.the pu**y envy the killer

kartel Is a joker remeber never bite the hand that feed u even wen u a grown man

This is the year for the artistes,to make positive music for the youths.

hmmm, let mi si di hands off all who truly love the music. if yu love di music yu nah go tek side when yu artist wrong. bounty a mi dj from day one but him should neva mek kartel mi dupes war wid assasin since him seh a him a di father. kartel fi no seh althugh him nah pick nuh side it did look a way when inna di heat a di d'angel ting him a link wid beenie. although him might have reasons fi nuh care some tings nuh du. idonia woulda seh him heart clean yet him a try him best fi pop dung busy signal career. kartel seh bounty did a shadow him too much suh him leff alliance but yet still him go form portmore weh it waan name, now him tun leader. the same ting weh bounty did a try wid di alliance nuh same ting him gaan do, start a crew wid friends. everyboady a mek money, nuh ,man caan tek yu talent as much as much as though him might a hole yu dung caah who god blees no man curse. di man dem fi just duh music an settle demself. dem always a talk bout biggy and 2 pac but wah happen to hammer mouth and pan head, dirts man, major worries, nitty gritty, black rat. dem man deh a local artist weh get clap out.
we nuh waan si dat so dem fi cool and di fans dem fi stop push it.
mi memba before idonia bus everybody a sound di big ting dem and a step out but now man a fight busy career a wah.
reggae a fi jamaicans a wi just a waiste time wid it till foriegners a mek more than wi outa it.

di artist dem fi know seh di bible dun tell yu seh yu caan serve two master same time. if dem a dj dem dj and stop gwaan like dem waan gwaan wid bare badness an people fi still by dem tune an support dem. yu tink dem woulda a gwaan suh if yu star hear seh people start assasinate some a di dj dem? mi know dem woulda humble demself dem time deh an a seh dem neva come inna di business fi a dead off, but yet still dem a par wid bare bad man an a supply gun an amunnition to some man weh waan kill people fi dem opinion and artist preference. all a dis just fi hype, the music cake caan done suh why every man want fi bi di only one fi a eat di cake till dem a war an ting?

Xavier, which Busy tune dem dat?...i kno "Dem Team Up" and "Black and White Affair" wen him dissin Aidonia and Kartel madly...anyway u can tell me which tune dat 4 me? Aidonia madd, but Busy badder...a dat me seh..........kartel didnt betray Bounty wen he left de Alliance...he betrayed him wen he started parin wit Fisheenie and DISSIN de killa.

New maaaaadddddd tune....
Bounty Killer - Try fi Stop Killa (Purge Riddim)
TUNE WICKED YU FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

BOOM BANG
ALLIANCE

All I can say is that these artists need fi stop the foolishness, if anyone give a next man a start in the business, why him feel him own him (ex. Bunty and Vybez)? bounty should be happy that the man (Vybez) decide to tek his career to the next level and try on his own. Bunty is a bit too possessive and controlling, him need fi get a grip of himself and mek other ppl strive. Him remind me of those ppl weh will do favors and hold it ova yuh fi eva, I hate that.
Jamaica is now a breeding ground fi voilence, every where yuh turn is negativity - Everybody have summn fi prove, but God have a beaten fi dem yussi.

Killa a di man... Kevin Thomas..Portmore..no like ba**ym*n no more comment from you......Alliance fi life